Final Fantasy XIII

[SlaughterX]

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Euro Exclusive CE

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360 Super Elite Bundle

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Faceplate (free with console preorder)

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Limited Edition JP Exclusive PS3 Slim

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Reviews (http://www.metacritic.com/search/process?sort=relevance&termtype=all&ts=final+fantasy+XIII&ty=0&button=search)

Videos (http://www.gametrailers.com/game/final-fantasy-xiii/2649)

[Squall81]

Has been delayed until 2009 in Japan... Guess I'll bump this thread in a year...

http://www.destructoid.com/final-fantasy-xiii-possibly-delayed-until-2009-54951.phtml

Ouch..

<--Sad Panda

[Futomimi]

Don't really care.

[Delition]

Same here.

[Sayckeone]

Who gives a ####? Other than one that Matsuno had a hand in, FF is garbage these days.

[RayFoxSith]

Although I agree with a lot of you guys on somethings, I still have hope for this entry. Especially Versus. At first, I was worried that they already announced XIII right before XII came out over here, but they seem to be taking their time with it.

[Sayckeone]

Dude, Shiva is a motorcycle in this.

LAWL

[RayFoxSith]

And Bumblebee wasn't a Buggie in the Transformers movie. Big whoop, don't really care.

[Sayckeone]

The point is, that's just retarded.

[RayFoxSith]

Yes, but another point is, I really don't care.

[Arjuna]

^ and another point is, no one cares about that. FF is just going to go down the drain from here in terms of next gen.

[Squall81]

Although I agree with a lot of you guys on somethings, I still have hope for this entry. Especially Versus. At first, I was worried that they already announced XIII right before XII came out over here, but they seem to be taking their time with it.


Seems like there is a lot of hate coming from people when Final Fantasy 12 was one of the best ones ever made. Even 10 was pretty darn good. They lost sight a little with the online game and X-2, but I think that is pretty much out the window now.

12 showed that they could get back to their roots and give one hell of a great ride after 22 years. 13 looks like it could bring role playing games to a whole new level once again.

[Sanctine]

X was pretty bad.

I was looking (somewhat) forward to XIII, but I'm glad about a delay. Means I'll have more time to decide upon another console, if I get one.

[Delition]

I actually enjoyed the gameplay of X, I must admit, but I hated pretty much every single other part of the game. The "laughing" scene has to be one of the worst things I can think of when it comes to stupid scenes in video games, just barely being beaten out by the first 1/4 of Enchanted Arms.

"I don't know how to climb ladders!"
"Press A."
"I can't walk on water!"
"Press A."
"How do I continue a conversation?"
"Press A."

As for XII, if I wanted to play World of Warcraft or FFXI I would. Again, I didn't care for any of the characters or storyline of XII.

[RayFoxSith]

As for XII, if I wanted to play World of Warcraft or FFXI I would. Again, I didn't care for any of the characters or storyline of XII.

GTFO

[Delition]

I believe we already had this conversation before the forum shut down, Ray.

[Sayckeone]

Yes, but another point is, I really don't care.
So what's up your ass tonight, douche bag?

As for XII, if I wanted to play World of Warcraft or FFXI I would. Again, I didn't care for any of the characters or storyline of XII.
Anything Yasumi Matsuno developed is better than your favorite game. Yasumi Matsuno is better than your favorite developer. As RayFoxSith said, GTFO.

[Yazarc]

I actually enjoyed the gameplay of X, I must admit, but I hated pretty much every single other part of the game. The "laughing" scene has to be one of the worst things I can think of when it comes to stupid scenes in video games, just barely being beaten out by the first 1/4 of Enchanted Arms.

"I don't know how to climb ladders!"
"Press A."
"I can't walk on water!"
"Press A."
"How do I continue a conversation?"
"Press A."

As for XII, if I wanted to play World of Warcraft or FFXI I would. Again, I didn't care for any of the characters or storyline of XII.

You are aware that the laughing scene in FFX is SUPPOSED to be bad, right? It sounded the same in the Japanese version. Why does that fact seem to go over so many heads. Especially from people who claim to actually care about story and things like that in a videogame.

Also, FFXII is nothing like Warcraft, or even FFXI.

[Arjuna]

Seriously I thought the same thing. How goddamn stupid can people be? DUR it are not sound real guyz, I dun liek it.

[Futomimi]

I honestly don't even remember that scene.

[Delition]

You are aware that the laughing scene in FFX is SUPPOSED to be bad, right?

Very well aware. That was just the point where I stopped caring.

"I disagree with your statement, and would like for you to be quiet."
EDIT: ...Whichever. I'm not going to make a big deal out of a disagreement.

[RayFoxSith]

Yeah, that laughing scene was horrible....

[Sayckeone]

If you're going to quote me, quote me properly or STFU.

[RayFoxSith]

Yes, but another point is, I really don't care.
So what's up your ass tonight, douche bag?

Sorry, didn't mean to make it out to be a rude comment.

[RiotGrrl]

Maybe I'd care more if it was ported to the 360.

But seeing as that's never going to happen... hohum.

It would have been delayed for other reasons anyway.

[Kakizaki]

Who gives a ####? Other than one that Matsuno had a hand in, FF is garbage these days.

Agreed.

[ViolenceJack]

Hmm All that hype about 12.. and the game was utterly boring as hell.. liked Rogue Galaxy way more.

Think I'll stick to Dragon Quest, and Tales games.

[euthanasian]

But Rogue Galaxy had the completely broken battle system that forced you to spam potions like crazy... The battles in 12 may not have been exciting, but they weren't terribly imbalanced like RG.

[Sayckeone]

Rouge Galaxy and Tales? You just voided your opinion on RPGs.

[RayFoxSith]

Hmm All that hype about 12.. and the game was utterly boring as hell.. liked Rogue Galaxy way more.

Think I'll stick to Dragon Quest, and Tales games.

You haven't fully read this thread, I suppose.

[JMAN]

Square has been delaying its FF games a lot lately. First with XII for almost a year or w/e.
I am pretty much looking forward to it though, I just hope it will have a better story than XII. No character development whatsoever.

[unknown]

http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/

HD Extended Trailers of FFXIII and FFVersusXIII are out.

I liked the fighting in the Versus trailer. That one guy's fighting style reminded me of Kirby's Mirror, wizard power though.

[Kakizaki]

I just hope it will have a better story than XII. No character development whatsoever.

Maybe in your opinion. IMO, XII was the first FF in many FFs where I actually enjoyed the cut scenes and the story.

[JMAN]

I just hope it will have a better story than XII. No character development whatsoever.

Maybe in your opinion. IMO, XII was the first FF in many FFs where I actually enjoyed the cut scenes and the story.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the cutscenes and honestly I do like the story, I am just saying the CHARACTERS didn't really have much to them, they were just "there".
I liked the game a lot. Out of them all I think Ashe had the biggest background story.

[Sayckeone]

They had enough to them. They just weren't the over-the-top typical jRPG rejects.

Ashe had the biggest background story because the whole story was about her. She was the main character; it's just that the story was told through Vaan's viewpoint.

[RayFoxSith]

Plus she was quite different then the usual female protagonists we got in previous FFs. She was more uptight and could fight for herself. Balthier FTW though.

[JMAN]

Yeah, Ashe was good. They probably made it through Vaan's viewpoint though because of the reaction to FFX-2's female protagonist set-up.
Honestly I wouldn't have minded if it was her viewpoint.
I liked all the characters, they just needed, idk, more story imo.

[Logan]

I liked how the characters were developed in FFXII to be honest. Very concise without the endless whiny conversations like in FFX. Balthier and Fran were my favorites.

[SlaughterX]

Here's the bump I promised!

[Gillian Seed]

it still isn't coming out in '09... maybe '10? Probably not.

You should thank MS/Square for saving you $399 Slaughter.

[marceall]

I'm really affraid of lower quality of FFXIII, because of X360 release. It will end up like GTAIV. Uff... poor Square

[Himuro]

I'm really affraid of lower quality of FFXIII, because of X360 release. It will end up like GTAIV. Uff... poor Square

square enix is one of the most talented developers in japan. why would they have trouble porting the game to 360? it's not like porting is even a hassle. And GTAIV was meh because they removed all the best stuff about the series not because it was multiplat.

[Gillian Seed]

I'm really affraid of lower quality of FFXIII, because of X360 release. It will end up like GTAIV. Uff... poor Square

square enix is one of the most talented developers in japan. why would they have trouble porting the game to 360? it's not like porting is even a hassle. And GTAIV was meh because they removed all the best stuff about the series not because it was multiplat.

I dont know about that... (http://kotaku.com/382888/sam-houser-360-needs-to-sort-out-storage) Without a mandatory HDD and using only DVDs, MS WILL run into problems later, it is a fact. They will have to revise some of these policies or make certain games require an HDD to have some of these larger games remain unhindered, because with a lack of storage space, something is going to suffer, be scaled back, or removed entirely.

[Himuro]

So you think R* included tv watching, cabaret, and comedy clubs but not evolving on the features they had in the past, or better yet, making the game an actual sand box game is due to the 360's disc space?

I call bull#### on that.

Disc space is one thing, but when you place useless features on top of actual gameplay, there's no going back. R* dropped the ball entirely and ps3 owners can blame 360's disc space all they want.

[Arjuna]

I don't think I have ever hated console gaming with a passion as much as I do right now.

[Himuro]

Same. This generation sucks balls.

It's all about the portables bro.

[massaker]

Sorry, but if you didn't like GTA IV I think your brain may be broken. You might need to get someone to check on that. Catscan or brain biopsy or something.

[marceall]

PS3 has far stronger system performance than X360.
It's far stronger machine.
It's pure fact.

[Himuro]

Sorry, but if you didn't like GTA IV I think your brain may be broken. You might need to get someone to check on that. Catscan or brain biopsy or something.

I didn't say I disliked it. I'm saying it was disappointing. If you think GTAIV is a massive step up for GTA then YOU need your brain to get a cat scan or something.

Ass clown.

PS3 has far stronger system performance than X360.
It's far stronger machine.
It's pure fact.

Hahahahahha

[marceall]

PS3 has far stronger system performance than X360.
It's far stronger machine.
It's pure fact.

Hahahahahha[/quote]

:roll:
huh?

[Himuro]

How is ps3 a stronger machine than 360? 360 has been able to do everything ps3 has been able to. ####, most of the games on ps3 that are also on 360 often look worse and perform worse.

[marceall]

How is ps3 a stronger machine than 360? 360 has been able to do everything ps3 has been able to. ####, most of the games on ps3 that are also on 360 often look worse and perform worse.

1. How is ps3 a stronger machine than 360?
Cell

2. 360 has been able to do everything ps3 has been able to.
You really don't believe it, do you?

3.####, most of the games on ps3 that are also on 360 often look worse and perform worse.
The're simple conversions from X360.

[Arjuna]

How is ps3 a stronger machine than 360? 360 has been able to do everything ps3 has been able to. ####, most of the games on ps3 that are also on 360 often look worse and perform worse.

Let's see it run MGS4 uncompressed on a tolerable amount of discs?

All joking aside, to be fair 360 games looked like ass until Gears of War. Now that Sony has some upcoming big titles, they are looking damn good. Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 in particular. I don't even want to begin to imagine how good God of War III is going to look. I played II not to long ago and was still damn impressed at some of the effects they pulled.

[SlaughterX]

it still isn't coming out in '09... maybe '10? Probably not.

You should thank MS/Square for saving you $399 Slaughter.

You must have forgot I spent my $400 over a year ago... anyway I will buy this game on the 360, only to supports Square's choice of bringing it to the system. Probably better to preserve my PS3's BR drive for movies since that's what Sony threw away this gen for anyway... ;)

[Himuro]

How is ps3 a stronger machine than 360? 360 has been able to do everything ps3 has been able to. ####, most of the games on ps3 that are also on 360 often look worse and perform worse.

Let's see it run MGS4 uncompressed on a tolerable amount of discs?

All joking aside, to be fair 360 games looked like ass until Gears of War. Now that Sony has some upcoming big titles, they are looking damn good. Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 in particular. I don't even want to begin to imagine how good God of War III is going to look. I played II not to long ago and was still damn impressed at some of the effects they pulled.

I still have yet to see a next gen game that impressed me more than Dead Rising. That game had more going for it production wise than just graphics. It actually allowed interaction. Somehow, this generation, interaction has DECREASED not INCREASED.

Also, whereas ps3 has Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 in terms of graphics, remember 360 has Forza 3. I'm pretty sure 360 could run Killzone 2 or Resistance 2. Not that I would give a ####. zzzz games.

It's pretty hard to judge since all the best looking games this gen are multi console, like Assassin's Creed. And even then, the ps3 falters with bugs, graphical errors and glitches.

How is ps3 a stronger machine than 360? 360 has been able to do everything ps3 has been able to. ####, most of the games on ps3 that are also on 360 often look worse and perform worse.

1. How is ps3 a stronger machine than 360?
Cell

2. 360 has been able to do everything ps3 has been able to.
You really don't believe it, do you?

3.####, most of the games on ps3 that are also on 360 often look worse and perform worse.
The're simple conversions from X360.

1. Cell is a bunch of PR bull####.

2. No.

3. Bubububut ps3 is stronger than 360! It couldn't run ports from 360 flawlessly! Face it, they're about on par with each other.

[Arjuna]

How is ps3 a stronger machine than 360? 360 has been able to do everything ps3 has been able to. ####, most of the games on ps3 that are also on 360 often look worse and perform worse.

Let's see it run MGS4 uncompressed on a tolerable amount of discs?

All joking aside, to be fair 360 games looked like ass until Gears of War. Now that Sony has some upcoming big titles, they are looking damn good. Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 in particular. I don't even want to begin to imagine how good God of War III is going to look. I played II not to long ago and was still damn impressed at some of the effects they pulled.

I still have yet to see a next gen game that impressed me more than Dead Rising. That game had more going for it production wise than just graphics. It actually allowed interaction. Somehow, this generation, interaction has DECREASED not INCREASED.

Also, whereas ps3 has Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 in terms of graphics, remember 360 has Forza 3. I'm pretty sure 360 could run Killzone 2 or Resistance 2. Not that I would give a ####. zzzz games.

It's pretty hard to judge since all the best looking games this gen are multi console, like Assassin's Creed. And even then, the ps3 falters with bugs, graphical errors and glitches.

How is ps3 a stronger machine than 360? 360 has been able to do everything ps3 has been able to. ####, most of the games on ps3 that are also on 360 often look worse and perform worse.

1. How is ps3 a stronger machine than 360?
Cell

2. 360 has been able to do everything ps3 has been able to.
You really don't believe it, do you?

3.####, most of the games on ps3 that are also on 360 often look worse and perform worse.
The're simple conversions from X360.

1. Cell is a bunch of PR bull####.

2. No.

3. Bubububut ps3 is stronger than 360! It couldn't run ports from 360 flawlessly! Face it, they're about on par with each other.

Dude you are so biased it's retarded. You aren't even giving PS3 a chance, just bashing the #### out of it and turning down it's upcoming damn good looking games. Now I remember why it was better without you here.

I don't particularly like Gears of War but to be honest 2 might just interest me a little more than the first did. Seeing as I paid for it in full price for the superior PC version only to beat it in less than 4 hours.

Also. Does Gran Turismo 5 mean anything? I know when the final version comes out it will give Forza 3 a run for it's money.

[marceall]

1. Cell is a bunch of PR bull####.

2. No.

3. Bubububut ps3 is stronger than 360! It couldn't run ports from 360 flawlessly! Face it, they're about on par with each other.[/quote]

Such clueless little boy...

[SlaughterX]

Lol (http://tiredgamer.ytmnd.com/)

[Himuro]

How am I not giving ps3 a chance? I'd like to give it a chance, but almost all the games I wanted a ps3 for are heading to 360. Like I said, there are some games I want for Ps3. Namely Uncharted, MGS4, RGG Kenzan, Valkyria. I'm hardly biased, just saying the truth. PS3 may be powerful, but I don't see how 360 is so much weaker it can't handle FFXIII either.

Do you always take what companies tell you as the truth? From what I remember reading from some reports, Cell, for instance, isn't even all that great and rsx is better.

What's more, what does this even matter? I play games, not console wars. Why should I spend 500 dollars or whatever on a system that is slowly losing its exclusives one by one? I was going to get a ps3 for MGS4, I'm glad I waited. I may get one at the end of this year though.

[Arjuna]

How am I not giving ps3 a chance? I'd like to give it a chance, but almost all the games I wanted a ps3 for are heading to 360. Like I said, there are some games I want for Ps3. Namely Uncharted, MGS4, RGG Kenzan, Valkyria. I'm hardly biased, just saying the truth. PS3 may be powerful, but I don't see how 360 is so much weaker it can't handle FFXIII either.

Do you always take what companies tell you as the truth? From what I remember reading from some reports, Cell, for instance, isn't even all that great and rsx is better.

What's more, what does this even matter? I play games, not console wars. Why should I spend 500 dollars or whatever on a system that is slowly losing its exclusives one by one? I was going to get a ps3 for MGS4, I'm glad I waited. I may get one at the end of this year though.

Let me get this straight, you don't even own a PS3 yet? That explains a lot, ####ing fail. Don't say Multiplatform gamers rule when you aren't even one, that is what I call bull####.

[Himuro]

I own an nes, snes, genesis, gameboy pocket, game gear, saturn, psx, n64, dreamcast, ps2, xbox, xbox 360, gba, ds, and psp.

How am I not a multiconsole gamer? Because I don't have a ps3 yet? That's certified ps3 fanboy drivel.

[Arjuna]

When someone says that, I tend to think they own all current gen consoles out on the market. I take their opinions seriously since they must know what they are talking about, right? They own the console, played the games they wanted to, know it's ups and downs and not just talk out of their ass or from what they read on NeoGaf or Kotaku.

It's not certified PS3 fanboy drivel, it's coming from somebody who owns all of the current gen consoles, including handhelds. People like you and Slaughter are so ####ing adamant to make asses of yourselves for 360 it's almost pathetic.

I consider myself to be a neutral gamer, I have my upcoming list of games I look forward to for both consoles, hell even Wii, PC and handhelds. But it's mongoloids like you who piss me off enough to defend a console I own and enjoy, and god I hate having to do it.

[Himuro]

Why do you have to defend it so adamantly? I'm just expressing I'm not impressed with ps3's game line up.

But ####, don't get me wrong. I think 360's line up sucks as well.

I think next gen sucks period. All the games I want are on portables or I can't play them because MS sucks and didn't make 360 import friendly.

But when it comes down to it, most of the console games I want are also multiplatform for some reason this generation. This gives me even less incentive to own a ps3 immediately, get my drift? That said, MGS4, RGG3, and Valkyria are enough for me to get a ps3, and I'm getting one this fall if they aren't ported or announced for 360 by then.

I want my 500 dollar purchase to be worth while. What is wrong with that?

PS3 is still better than Wii.

[SlaughterX]

When someone says that, I tend to think they own all current gen consoles out on the market. I take their opinions seriously since they must know what they are talking about, right? They own the console, played the games they wanted to, know it's ups and downs and not just talk out of their ass or from what they read on NeoGaf or Kotaku.

It's not certified PS3 fanboy drivel, it's coming from somebody who owns all of the current gen consoles, including handhelds. People like you and Slaughter are so ####ing adamant to make asses of yourselves for 360 it's almost pathetic.

I consider myself to be a neutral gamer, I have my upcoming list of games I look forward to for both consoles, hell even Wii, PC and handhelds. But it's mongoloids like you who piss me off enough to defend a console I own and enjoy, and god I hate having to do it.

You're such a ####ing hypocrite I'm not even going to bother seriously replying to your stupid comment.

But seriously though Himuro, how can you diss GTA4, then go on to praise AC? I think the vast majority of #### they cut from San Andreas was for the better.

[Arjuna]

Because it's almost 4 AM, I can't sleep, this console war ######ry is more ridiculous than ever.

[Himuro]

You're such a ####ing hypocrite I'm not even going to bother seriously replying to your stupid comment.

But seriously though Himuro, how can you diss GTA4, then go on to praise AC? I think the vast majority of #### they cut from San Andreas was for the better.

GTA is one of my favorite series. I was really hyped for it. If you want my full on review of the game...here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=307743

AC wasn't bad.It wasn't great either. But it was fun. Plus, it's not like it was a sequel to one of my favorite series.

[Arjuna]

When someone says that, I tend to think they own all current gen consoles out on the market. I take their opinions seriously since they must know what they are talking about, right? They own the console, played the games they wanted to, know it's ups and downs and not just talk out of their ass or from what they read on NeoGaf or Kotaku.

It's not certified PS3 fanboy drivel, it's coming from somebody who owns all of the current gen consoles, including handhelds. People like you and Slaughter are so ####ing adamant to make asses of yourselves for 360 it's almost pathetic.

I consider myself to be a neutral gamer, I have my upcoming list of games I look forward to for both consoles, hell even Wii, PC and handhelds. But it's mongoloids like you who piss me off enough to defend a console I own and enjoy, and god I hate having to do it.

You're such a ####ing hypocrite I'm not even going to bother seriously replying to your stupid comment.

But seriously though Himuro, how can you diss GTA4, then go on to praise AC? I think the vast majority of #### they cut from San Andreas was for the better.

You can't reply seriously because I own all of the consoles. What now, ho?

Also you're wrong about the #### they cut from SA, the flying bicycles should have carried over. Come to think of it, you can't even ride a bike in GTAIV, just street bikes.

[Himuro]

This isn't about stuff they cut from SA. They cut stuff that was in GTA3 without adding new interesting content on top of it all. No, they thought I'd rather go date my cousin instead of doing actually fun things.

[marceall]

Agree.
GTAIV sucks because of multiplatform release. I hope Rockstar learned a lesson

[Himuro]

Cousin, let us go bowling. :roll:

[marceall]

This should help, go with him

[Sayckeone]

I didn't say I disliked it. I'm saying it was disappointing. If you think GTAIV is a massive step up for GTA then YOU need your brain to get a cat scan or something.

Ass clown.Let me ask you something. Why did you not come around for months, and then suddenly show up just to display your 360 dick sucking and be a massive ####ing douche for no reason at all? Go back to NeoGAF and do that ####, bro.

You're such a ####ing hypocrite.
That's hilarious coming from you.

[Logan]

How is ps3 a stronger machine than 360? 360 has been able to do everything ps3 has been able to. ####, most of the games on ps3 that are also on 360 often look worse and perform worse.

That says more about the developers than it does the machine running it. Quite a few Xbox games that were ported from the PS2 ran like ####(Dynasty Warriors 3&4, MGS2:S for example). That doesn't mean the PS2 and Xbox were "on par" with one another, just that porting it proved to be more difficult than expected or the developers were plain incompetent(in the case of Omega Force).

On topic - I find it hard to get excited for any news about FFXIII because it's giving me a serious FFVIII vibe which is one of my least favorite FF's ever. Last Remnant and Inifinite Undiscovery look better to me since they look a lot like FFXII to me. And they're actually new IP which is very rare coming from SE these days.

[Sei]

I pretty much agree with your GTA4 Review Himuro. I mostly like story driven games, and at the start of VI, I thought it was awesome. But later when the story starts to drag after the bank mission I noticed that there really wasnt a lot to do.

I miss the R3 missions, and I was really expecting to get the ability to pick up cars from Brucie, like when you completed the garages in 3, or something to happen when you complete the drug package missions, or, something.

But everything is just rather pointless. as far as I can see, the side everythings get you nothing, I noticed nobody has mentioned the lack of planes, which were a big favorite of mine back in the day. (like the Dodo, yes, I thought it fun) (Yes I know there are helicopters, they are terribly slow, and I dont like em as much). And I dunno, I liked the RPG aspects of San Andreas. And the having to take people places/dates is terrible, and tedious.

I mentioned before that on ps2 I tended to like each GTA less than the previous one. 4 kinda rekindled the magic for the first however many hours but... I dunno. The sandbox is gone and when the story drags, the game sorta ends for me. Dunno if I'd pick up 5.

But who knows maybe they removed that stuff to sell it as 360 DLC.

On topic: I like how ff13 is looking so far. With the exception of 8 I've liked most of em, so I'm planning to pick it up.

[DamnedToBeFree]

The thing that ruined GTA IV for me were those ####ing Mafia missions.

[Himuro]

I didn't say I disliked it. I'm saying it was disappointing. If you think GTAIV is a massive step up for GTA then YOU need your brain to get a cat scan or something.

Ass clown.Let me ask you something. Why did you not come around for months, and then suddenly show up just to display your 360 dick sucking and be a massive ####ing douche for no reason at all? Go back to NeoGAF and do that ####, bro.

Well sorry for coming off as a douche or xbox 360 dick sucking because I didn't mean it that way.

I've lurked for more months. I didn't have much to say.

[Dual]

Did you guys know this topic is about FFXIII?

[Sayckeone]

I didn't say I disliked it. I'm saying it was disappointing. If you think GTAIV is a massive step up for GTA then YOU need your brain to get a cat scan or something.

Ass clown.Let me ask you something. Why did you not come around for months, and then suddenly show up just to display your 360 dick sucking and be a massive ####ing douche for no reason at all? Go back to NeoGAF and do that ####, bro.

Well sorry for coming off as a douche or xbox 360 dick sucking because I didn't mean it that way.

I've lurked for more months. I didn't have much to say.
It's OK, Himu! I forgive you!

[Himuro]

My heart is fluttering. And there's...there's something in my pants :oops:

[Sei]

Did you guys know this topic is about FFXIII?

Did you know it's going to 360?

I forgot to mention I liked the tanks in 3, too. Where are the tanks in GTA4?

[marceall]

They're in Mercenaries 2

[Sayckeone]

I forgot to mention I liked the tanks in 3, too. Where are the tanks in GTA4?
Word.

[Himuro]

They took out tanks because it's not "realistic'

[Dual]

Did you guys know this topic is about FFXIII?

Did you know it's going to 360?

I forgot to mention I liked the tanks in 3, too. Where are the tanks in GTA4?

I thought you made a thread specifically for console wars so this exact kind of thing wouldn't happen, though.

[Sei]

^ And running around from the cops for 5 minutes after killing HALF THE JEWS IN TOWN and they giving up the chase is?

Consistency plz.

[Sayckeone]

I thought you made a thread specifically for console wars so this exact kind of thing wouldn't happen, though.
You're at Atlus. Thread titles mean nothing.

[Himuro]

^ And running around from the cops for 5 minutes after killing HALF THE JEWS IN TOWN and they giving up the chase is?

Consistency plz.

Even GTAIV's plot is retarded.

Roman: Cousin, people are after me! They are trying to keel me!
Niko: It's okay Roman. I am getting us out of this. I stole 250 thousand dollars from a bank, and now we can live the beeg life.
Roman: Niko! Help me! These people are trying to keel me!
Niko: I will help you cousin!

[marceall]

LOL
I must laughing reading your targeted comments plus seeing your avatar Sayck...

[Sei]

^ I lolled, hardcore!

Ah well, bb in about an hour and a half, lesse if Sony pulls it off.

[allie_razakel]

I'm sorry people, but I'm going to put this thread back in its proper track.

FFXIII, PEOPLE, REMEMBER?

12 showed that they could get back to their roots and give one hell of a great ride after 22 years.

I have to agree with that, but it's probably because Nomura wasn't involved in it.

I'm not saying that Nomura makes FF all...bad...I actually like FFX, but that's about it. Most FF games that fail were his.

[DamnedToBeFree]

I've nothing against Nomura's FFs(exception being FF X-2. That game ####ing sucked). It's that he's also responsible for Kingdom Hearts, which is probably one of the worst franchises in the history of video games, IMO.

[Voodoo]

I've nothing against Nomura's FFs(exception being FF X-2. That game ####ing sucked). It's that he's also responsible for Kingdom Hearts, which is probably one of the worst franchises in the history of video games, IMO.

Barbie actually gets that honor.

[DamnedToBeFree]

Hey don't be dissin Barbie.

[marceall]

If will FFXIII PS3 & X360 be the same quality, this game is lost for me.
Thanks MS for lowered game quality.
Square - Fail
End

[allie_razakel]

I've nothing against Nomura's FFs(exception being FF X-2. That game ####ing sucked). It's that he's also responsible for Kingdom Hearts, which is probably one of the worst franchises in the history of video games, IMO.

True, with the storyline and all.
(AND MICKEY IN THAT BLACK HOOD THING. WTF WERE THEY THINKING?)

"Shh, I'm hiding from Organization XIII," said Mickey.

0.o...Yea, I'd be pretty blind if I don't notice those ears, Mickey.

But still, you have to admit, the battle system in KH2 was very well done. If it weren't that easy, then it'd be even better.

And I have to say this, homosexuality is very very prominent in KH2.



Wait, who am I kidding? Homosexuality is very prominent in ALL of Nomura's works.

[DamnedToBeFree]

I think the only good thing about KH2 was seeing Setzer and Vivi during the beginning hours of the game.

[Vincent Alexander]

I think the only good thing about KH2 was seeing Setzer and Vivi during the beginning hours of the game.

I enjoyed where Daffy Duck almost died. If they didn't puss out and would've left him dead, that game would've been golden.

[DamnedToBeFree]

I never even made that far.

[Logan]

If will FFXIII PS3 & X360 be the same quality, this game is lost for me.
Thanks MS for lowered game quality.
Square - Fail
End

I guess the best way to find that out would be to compare the Japanese PS3 version with the North American one once it is released since SE isn't bothering porting this to the 360 in Japan. Considering SE has claimed that their priority with FFXIII is to finish the PS3 version first I'm guessing the only thing this effects will be how long we have to wait for this to be localized. Though I'm sure if FFXIII is to have DLC(which it probably will in this day and age) that MS and Sony will fight over who gets what like hungry hungry hippos.

[DamnedToBeFree]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/890/890359p1.html

There also are no plans to have the games be different on Xbox 360 and PS3. Nothing has been decided for sure yet, but the team is looking at ways to compress the audio and pre-rendered cutscenes that take up a lot of data without affecting the quality when bringing the game from a blu-ray format to the DVDs that Xbox 360 reads.

[marceall]

BS! FantasyBS!

[raum215]

The best Final Fantasy, in my opinion, was the first. Others were good games, but the sheer weight of the existential crisis that game presented at the end was unprecendented in the US video game experience before then. Square's fatalistic attitude about the possible end of their own company was something I can really kind of feel as I play it.

[Flußkönig]

If will FFXIII PS3 & X360 be the same quality, this game is lost for me.
Thanks MS for lowered game quality.
Square - Fail
End

S-E is using the crystal tools engine to make FXIII. The tool set creates a common 3D data format for the PS3, 360 and windows PC. There is seriously no reason to believe that FFXIII being announced for the 360 or windows will have any effect on the overall quality of FFXIII.

[marceall]

Just how many DVD's you must have against single BlueRay disc?

And till now FFXIII was developed on PS3 system. We all know it has far complicated inner structure than X360 has. (Same as it was with PS2. Just look at MGS3. It looks fantastic till today!)

I read at IGN some Square bs about compressed CGIs and some more bs about how they can't tell more info atc.

It could be top quality game as ever FF was, but now I'm affraid it will be not. (Just my opinion)

[raum215]

The game is still being developed for the PS3, not for both systems.

The North American/ European 360 version or this PS3 game that is being localized to NA/EU on PS3 as well is either a port, OR it has always been a safeguard to make sure FFXIII would run on the 360, if need be. As for the 360, it looks like most of the game may be downloaded through Live as you play through parts, like some kind of mini-install, instead of a obscene amount of disks. Though I still kinda like multi-disk. It gave me a sense of accomplishment to finally put in disk 3 or 4.

I also hope the porting to the 360 will not delay the Ps3 NA/EU release.

Now, for sure, people will be able to blame anything they don't like on the other console. So, for sure, Square is free of blame.

I advocate third-party multi-console releases, personally. If it can be done, it should be done. If a console manufacturer has to fund the port, let them have the option. First party exclusives and console features should be buying factors for consoles.

And I REALLY want a Legend of Dragoon next gen... (hear me Sony?) This game was not too successful, compared to FFVII; until after a while. A sequel to a sleeper hit is what Sony needs.

[DamageCity]

After playing the Man-on-Man tugfest that was Crisis Core, I couldn't care less about FF.

[Sakubo]

Im not really worried about it. It 360 wants to let poeple copy games to the hardrive to avoid disc swapping. Working with Squaresoft or other companies that make large ps3 titles that would take a great deal of dvds is probably the reason they are doing this. I mean even if its 10 discs if you can just copy it all to the hardrive and just leave in disc 1 or whatever so it knows you have the game then all the better.

[tonberry]

Just how many DVD's you must have against single BlueRay disc?

If I remember correctly, I think you need eight DVDs.

[massaker]

Is anyone else a little disappointed with the direction of final fantasy lately? or is it just me?

Wheres the jobs, wheres the cool cartoony characters, wheres the difficulty? This sucks.

[Futomimi]

12 was much better than the majority of FF games with the job system. I haven't played any of the 890489048309 spin-offs released lately, so they can all eat a dick.

[Voodoo]

12 was much better than the majority of FF games with the job system. The 890489048309 spin-offs can eat a dick.

must resist must resist must resist must resist

[massaker]

12 was much better than the majority of FF games with the job system. I haven't played any of the 890489048309 spin-offs released lately, so they can all eat a dick.

Hmm, I thought 11 was greatly superior to 12, maybe because it has jobs. Maybe alot of people are sick of jobs, but I want my ninja and black mages and samurai back. :(

[Sei]

I love the job system. Most of the games with it are significantly > to the ones without it. It was one of the reasons I liked FFX-2. I agree on the difficulty though. Dunno what you mean by cool cartoony characters, stuff like Caith Sith?

I'm glad they kinda stopped adding mascots. I detest Cactuars.

[unknown]

I liked Tactics the most, it overthrew FFIX as my most favorite FF.

Haven't played or bought XII yet.

[arollo]

I liked Tactics the most, it overthrew FFIX as my most favorite FF.

Haven't played or bought XII yet.

I have never played any of the tactics games.

I also hated XII.

I'm the worst Square-enix fanboy in the world. Ah well.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what XIII is going to be like. I'll eventually buy a next-gen console based on new Final Fantasy (when they stop being crazily expensive, that is).

[ViolenceJack]

FF games have just become more about flash and less about story.

[DamageCity]

I hate the 40 hours of gameplay and 100 hours of optional play approach. Why can't it be 100 hours of gameplay and 40 hours of optional play.

[DamnedToBeFree]

I kinda wish they had included the job system in FFXII. It would've worked well with the License Grid.

Oh, and has anybody heard about Square-Enix's upcoming "surprise" announcement about FFVII?

[arollo]

I actually wish they had the job system in FFXII. It would've worked well with the License Grid.

Oh, and has anybody heard about Square-Enix's upcoming "surprise" announcement about FFVII?

No. Can you give us a link to something? I've been hoping for some kind of re-make or re-release or even just an easier way to get hold of the game in general.

[Sei]

^ I think they added it in the FF12 rerelease.

Never made it here though.

They releasing 7 too?

On 360?

[SlaughterX]

I hate the 40 hours of gameplay and 100 hours of optional play approach. Why can't it be 100 hours of gameplay and 40 hours of optional play.

I'd rather not have to play a game for 100 just to see the end credits...

[Sayckeone]

FF games have just become more about flash and less about story.
Yeah, because XII had no story what-so-ever.

I actually wish they had the job system in FFXII. It would've worked well with the License Grid.
It does, sort of.

Enforced Class System Challenge FAQ: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/game/459841.html

[Futomimi]

Me either... honestly, most of the FF games aren't worth playing for more than 60 or so. 6 and 12, maybe. Definitely no with 8, 10, 5, etc.

edit: (Meant to post after Slaughter)

[DamageCity]

I hate the 40 hours of gameplay and 100 hours of optional play approach. Why can't it be 100 hours of gameplay and 40 hours of optional play.

I'd rather not have to play a game for 100 just to see the end credits...

I've plugged more than 100 hours into Nocturne.

[Futomimi]

Games like Nocturne, EO, etc. are the exception, not the rule. I don't know of any Final Fantasy game that offered as much customization (which was pretty much half the fun) as those two games.

The few FFs that I like enough to play for a long time have side-quests and optional content that are about as enjoyable as the main game, so I have no problem playing 20-40 hours of "extra" stuff.

[Kakizaki]

I hate the 40 hours of gameplay and 100 hours of optional play approach. Why can't it be 100 hours of gameplay and 40 hours of optional play.

I'd rather not have to play a game for 100 just to see the end credits...

I've plugged more than 100 hours into Nocturne.

Me too. Over 200 actually. 150 in FF XII.

[DamnedToBeFree]

I actually wish they had the job system in FFXII. It would've worked well with the License Grid.

Oh, and has anybody heard about Square-Enix's upcoming "surprise" announcement about FFVII?

No. Can you give us a link to something? I've been hoping for some kind of re-make or re-release or even just an easier way to get hold of the game in general.

I don't have a link to any websites, but I was watching G4, and the scrolling ticker at the bottom said something about S-E and an "announcement that will shock fans of Final Fantasy VII". I'm not sure what it means either. Could be anything. I was kinda hoping someone else would've heard about it as well.



I actually wish they had the job system in FFXII. It would've worked well with the License Grid.
It does, sort of.

Enforced Class System Challenge FAQ: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/game/459841.html

I might actually try that out during my next play-through.

[Sayckeone]

We have FFIV, V, and VI remakes coming for DS. It's almost time for that FFVII remake...


FOR PS3!!!

Bye, XBox!

[tonberry]

We have FFIV, V, and VI remakes coming for DS. It's almost time for that FFVII remake...

I really hope FFVII remake will happen. The fact that it is so hard to find a copy of FFVII makes me wonder if Square is secretly planning this. I mean, you can find copies of most of their old games on their website, but no FFVII... Or maybe I'm just deluding myself.

[Chronis]

Or maybe everyone bought FF7 so they can sell it for inflated prices on eBay? I mean, it's not like the gane is rare.

[SlaughterX]

Printing more copies of FF7 to meet the demand would be very easy, they still make copies of FF Anthology, Chronicles, 8, 9, Chrono Cross, and many other PS games...

I hate the 40 hours of gameplay and 100 hours of optional play approach. Why can't it be 100 hours of gameplay and 40 hours of optional play.

I'd rather not have to play a game for 100 just to see the end credits...

I've plugged more than 100 hours into Nocturne.

And I beat it in around 50...

[massaker]

And I beat it in around 50...

Which ending though? Wouldn't be easy beating you know who in 50 hours.

If you didn't beat the final boss you didn't really beat it, you saw the end credits...

[SlaughterX]

I am happy enough with that, and that was kinda my point... I like being able to see the credits in less than 100 hours, if there are extras that put it at or over that time then cool, but if I had to play most RPGs for that long jsut to see the credits then I know I wouldn't beat them very often (or rather, even less often than I do now)...

[Arjuna]

Games like Nocturne, EO, etc. are the exception, not the rule. I don't know of any Final Fantasy game that offered as much customization (which was pretty much half the fun) as those two games.

The few FFs that I like enough to play for a long time have side-quests and optional content that are about as enjoyable as the main game, so I have no problem playing 20-40 hours of "extra" stuff.

You're joking right? FFVI's Colosseum ####ing ruled. Sure it wasn't all about customization but the prizes were pretty random depending on how well you did. But oh god I was pretty much addicted to that, obsessing on wanting to hook someone up with an Offering.

[Sei]

Games like Nocturne, EO, etc. are the exception, not the rule. I don't know of any Final Fantasy game that offered as much customization (which was pretty much half the fun) as those two games.



The ones with job systems are all about customization Mimi!. Especially FFV and tactics!. The first time I played it through, it was with a party of my own making and my Ramza was a black mage the whole game. It was awesome!. Prolly one of the reasons I like Disgaea too, heh.

(edit: Fixed Fail, source was one of your posts but I cleaned it badly :(

[Arjuna]

Hell yeah picking out your sub job abilities so you could make the most kick ass combos. It seems you tried to quote me but failed? :o

[arollo]

I lucked out and got a copy of Final Fantasy VII off of some guy on CraigsList for almost nothing.

But I am really into the idea of a Final Fantasy VII re-make because there really is a lot that could be added, visually, to the game to improve the experience. Though the original is damn near perfect. And I don't really want to buy a PS3 or 360 anytime in the near future, and I just know the FFVII remake will hit the next-gen consoles.

I am curious about FFVII, though, as they still do print new copies of all the other PSX Final Fantasy games. I actually just found this out a couple of months ago, when I found a brand new copy of Final Fantasy VIII, which was really shocking. So why not keep pumping out VII and curb all the rip-off artists on ebay? There has to be some kind of evil plan for VII. Has to.

We have FFIV, V, and VI remakes coming for DS. It's almost time for that FFVII remake...

Has that been confirmed, the V and VI remakes for DS?

I know it's obvious, but has Square-Enix actually come out and admitted they were going to do V and VI?

[DamnedToBeFree]

We have FFIV, V, and VI remakes coming for DS. It's almost time for that FFVII remake...

Has that been confirmed, the V and VI remakes for DS?

I know it's obvious, but has Square-Enix actually come out and admitted they were going to do V and VI?

A while back, I think S-E mentioned that if the FF III & IV remakes were successful, they may consider also doing V & VI. I'll try and look for an article or something.

[arollo]

A while back, I think S-E mentioned that if the FF III & IV remakes were successful, they may consider also doing V & VI. I'll try and look for an article or something.

Thanks man. I should hit the google to look into that myself. I've been salivating over Dragon Quest IV, V, VI, and IX almost exclusively lately.

[SlaughterX]

Confirmed (http://kotaku.com/5033117/final-fantasy-xiii-xbox-360-asia-version-announced) for Asian release on the 360.

[RedEagleEX]

^ Does not include Japan btw.

[SlaughterX]

New screens (http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/142/14266574/imgs_1.html)...

[Azriel Crusnik]

We have FFIV, V, and VI remakes coming for DS. It's almost time for that FFVII remake...


FOR PS3!!!

Bye, XBox!

It all comes down to square enix to decide to keep final fantasy 7 on sony or deepen the stab wound and release it on 360.

[Kaibigan]

I know I'm really late on a lot of this ####, but:

FFVII "Shocking" News: Advent Children COMPLETE to be released next spring in japan. Extended to 3 hours with extra 'scenarios' put in. Playable demo of FFXIII to be included in the ACC package.

Also, FFXII has a job class system in it. Just in a different release of the game called Final Fantasy XII International Zodiac Job System. Everyone has multiple license boards to choose from in the beginning of the game, and once you choose one to use, all of the others are locked out.

[Azriel Crusnik]

^ Is the FFXII Zodiac system coming to the US?

[Kaibigan]

^ Is the FFXII Zodiac system coming to the US?

I highly doubt it.

[Azriel Crusnik]

^ Is the FFXII Zodiac system coming to the US?

I highly doubt it.

How sad.

[slayn]

It all comes down to square enix to decide to keep final fantasy 7 on sony or deepen the stab wound and release it on 360.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

[iammako3]

FFVII "Shocking" News: Advent Children COMPLETE to be released next spring in japan. Extended to 3 hours with extra 'scenarios' put in. Playable demo of FFXIII to be included in the ACC package.

If I get this (and I will), my household will have 7 copies of this movie (4 legal — and 7 copies between my sister and me, though I own more). That is a lot of Advent Children. But it'll be my first Blu-ray movie! Woo! And a demo of XIII! Double woo!!

[Kaibigan]

It all comes down to square enix to decide to keep final fantasy 7 on sony or deepen the stab wound and release it on 360.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

Lots of love for sony, right? SE is a 3rd party developer, they don't have to be loyal to anybody.

[slayn]

Lots of love for sony, right? SE is a 3rd party developer, they don't have to be loyal to anybody.

Are you talking about me or SE? I've got no problems with Sony that I don't have with the other two console-makers.

If you're talking about SE, they only have to be loyal to their shareholders, and that means making money. Producing games for the 360, at least for western territories, is a great way to make money.

I'm just really glad the fanboys have zero input in to how the video game industry is run.

[Kaibigan]

I'm just really glad the fanboys have zero input in to how the video game industry is run.

exactly.

[Azriel Crusnik]

It all comes down to square enix to decide to keep final fantasy 7 on sony or deepen the stab wound and release it on 360.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

How is it so?
don't they have a release set up for FFXIII on 360?
A release for Star Ocean 4 on 360?
To turn around a betray the company that help propel them to the top with exclusives that wre once Sony's and releases them for a different system just for the purpose of profit?
This just shows that the direction of Enix is taking is no longer that of trust.

[Towel]

It all comes down to square enix to decide to keep final fantasy 7 on sony or deepen the stab wound and release it on 360.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

How is it so?
don't they have a release set up for FFXIII on 360?
A release for Star Ocean 4 on 360?
To turn around a betray the company that help propel them to the top with exclusives that wre once Sony's and releases them for a different system just for the purpose of profit?
This just shows that the direction of Enix is taking is no longer that of trust.

SONY DOES NOT, AND NEVER DID, OWN THE RIGHTS TO EVERY JRPG EVER PRODUCED. THE DEVELOPERS CAN PUT IT ON WHATEVER SYSTEM THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE.

Also note that the majority of big franchises had their start and were "propelled to the top" on Nintendo consoles, not Sonys. Goddamn do I hate the PS1/PS2 kids. Great consoles; #### fanbase.

[Sayckeone]

Also note that the majority of big franchises had their start and were "propelled to the top" on Nintendo consoles, not Sonys. Goddamn do I hate the PS1/PS2 kids. Great consoles; #### fanbase.
This.

[Arjuna]

It all comes down to square enix to decide to keep final fantasy 7 on sony or deepen the stab wound and release it on 360.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

How is it so?
don't they have a release set up for FFXIII on 360?
A release for Star Ocean 4 on 360?
To turn around a betray the company that help propel them to the top with exclusives that wre once Sony's and releases them for a different system just for the purpose of profit?
This just shows that the direction of Enix is taking is no longer that of trust.

SONY DOES NOT, AND NEVER DID, OWN THE RIGHTS TO EVERY JRPG EVER PRODUCED. THE DEVELOPERS CAN PUT IT ON WHATEVER SYSTEM THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE.

Also note that the majority of big franchises had their start and were "propelled to the top" on Nintendo consoles, not Sonys. Goddamn do I hate the PS1/PS2 kids. Great consoles; #### fanbase.

Yeah like the 360 fanbase is so much ####ing better.

[Sei]

^ They count frodo baggings amongst it Al!. Why there was an entire MTV special about him being filmed pretending to play games!.

And they don't complain too much about pay per multiplayer, or broken systems, exemplary chaps.

[Kakizaki]

lol

[slayn]

Also note that the majority of big franchises had their start and were "propelled to the top" on Nintendo consoles, not Sonys. Goddamn do I hate the PS1/PS2 kids. Great consoles; #### fanbase.
This.

Also, anyone that talks about "betrayals" with regard to the video game industry is beneath contempt.

[System_Error]

It all comes down to square enix to decide to keep final fantasy 7 on sony or deepen the stab wound and release it on 360.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

How is it so?
don't they have a release set up for FFXIII on 360? FF1 - Nintendo Entertainment System
A release for Star Ocean 4 on 360? Star Ocean 1 -Super Famicom
To turn around a betray the company that help propel them to the top with exclusives that wre once Nintendo's and releases them for a different system just for the purpose of profit? A Video Game Company that likes to stay afloat

[Towel]

It all comes down to square enix to decide to keep final fantasy 7 on sony or deepen the stab wound and release it on 360.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

How is it so?
don't they have a release set up for FFXIII on 360?
A release for Star Ocean 4 on 360?
To turn around a betray the company that help propel them to the top with exclusives that wre once Sony's and releases them for a different system just for the purpose of profit?
This just shows that the direction of Enix is taking is no longer that of trust.

SONY DOES NOT, AND NEVER DID, OWN THE RIGHTS TO EVERY JRPG EVER PRODUCED. THE DEVELOPERS CAN PUT IT ON WHATEVER SYSTEM THEY DAMN WELL PLEASE.

Also note that the majority of big franchises had their start and were "propelled to the top" on Nintendo consoles, not Sonys. Goddamn do I hate the PS1/PS2 kids. Great consoles; #### fanbase.

Yeah like the 360 fanbase is so much ####ing better.

Smart idea: Being a fan of a genre of video games

####ing retarded idea: Being a fanboy of a company

I go where the games go. If the triple starts to receive all the console RPGs, then I'll buy that. Though I doubt it as Microsoft is ####ing serious about gaining a foothold in Japan and has ensured that developing on the Xbox for Japanese devs cost peanuts (their developer incentive program for Japanese devs gets rid of all the royalties and other bull#### usually associated with publishing games on consoles).

[Azriel Crusnik]

^ lashing out at me only proves that your a hypocrite, and that I'm right.
"betrayal" Nintendo did this to Sony and the PS1 was born, do research before posting.

[slayn]

^ lashing out at me only proves that your a hypocrite, and that I'm right.
"betrayal" Nintendo did this to Sony and the PS1 was born, do research before posting.

The video game industry is not one of your video games. No one betrayed anyone; Nintendo had second thoughts about a CD-based console and backed out of their deal with Sony. Sony had already invested a large sum of money in the project and decided to take their chances by introducing their own console to compete with Sega and Nintendo.

There are no betrayals in the business world; there are good business decisions and bad business decisions. Nintendo made a bad business decision when they ditched Sony. Sony made a great business decision when they decided to push forward on their own. Similarly, Nintendo made a series of bad business decisions in how they treated third party publishers in the mid-90s (and honestly, they're still making those bad decisions). Square made a good business decision and moved their flagship title over to Sony's hardware. Similarly, Square-Enix is making a good business decision and going multi-platform with their flagship title.

Is this really so hard for fanboys to understand?

[Azriel Crusnik]

^All you did was prove my point, now drop it.

[PhalseProfet]

You had a point?

[Azriel Crusnik]

You had a point?

Yup!

[PhalseProfet]

I don't think it's a point, so much as a skewed perspective. You're trying to turn industry practices into some sort of neurotic Shakespearian drama. When you take the emotion out, what you're left with is a handful of companies doing what's right for their company. Sony had a good run with the FF franchise. Time to move on.

[slayn]

I don't think it's a point, so much as a skewed perspective. You're trying to turn industry practices into some sort of neurotic Shakespearian drama. When you take the emotion out, what you're left with is a handful of companies doing what's right for their company. Sony had a good run with the FF franchise. Time to move on.

It's not even a skewed perspective, it's a fanboy being pissed because those he feels are unworthy (360 owners) are going to get to play FFXIII, as if that's somehow going to tarnish the orgasm he'll get out of playing it on the PS3.

And there is no moving on. FFXIII is still going to be on the PS3. Furthermore, FF Vs. XIII is going to be PS3-exclusive and FF Agito XIII is going to be PSP-exclusive. So Microsoft is getting one FF game out of this. BEHOLD SQUEENIX, THE GREAT BETRAYER!!!!

People like Aziel Crusnik are ####ing morons.

[RayFoxSith]

Drop it before you get this topic locked.

[PhalseProfet]

I meant to say they had a good run with keeping the franchise exclusive. That sentence just sounded awkward, so I shortened it.

[Azriel Crusnik]

^your correct, and I admire that thank you. This argument is over so move on.

[Dual]

Similarly, Nintendo made a series of bad business decisions in how they treated third party publishers in the mid-90s (and honestly, they're still making those bad decisions).

lol Wii

Anyway, my input on the situation is similar to Slayn's, I don't see the big deal. Most 360 fanboys seem to happy to get a multiport, most PS3 fanboys seem justified to throw a fit when they don't get an exclusive. It seems like a large number of them bought the console preemptively and should be more mad at themselves than anyone else for assuming they'd get all these games, exclusively. Is owning a Sony console not being a ticket to a private party supposed to make people mad?

[Sayckeone]

Is owning a Sony console not being a ticket to a private party supposed to make people mad?
It makes me FURIOUS! I will never buy a non-Sony console! Ever!

[Voodoo]

Is owning a Sony console not being a ticket to a private party supposed to make people mad?
It makes me FURIOUS! I will never buy a non-Sony console! Ever!

Your xbox wasn't in the room when you typed this was it?

[Sayckeone]

^lol No.

[Voodoo]

^lol No.

Thats good because you wouldn't want it to get emotional and Red Ring on you.

[Sayckeone]

^I hadn't thought of that. :(

[Voodoo]

^I hadn't thought of that. :(

better bring it home a present.

[Sayckeone]

Like this (http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Black-Play-Charge-Kit/dp/B000OYMYZQ/ref=pd_bbs_sr_5?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1220031183&sr=8-5)? :D

[Voodoo]

That should work.

[Sayckeone]

Awesome.

[massaker]

I think Versus looks a little more interesting than XIII. Might accidentally post this picture now there isn't anyone around to get into an arguement with.

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7492/finalfantasyversusxiii2tr7.jpg

[unknown]

Versus XIII does have the fancier trailers

[Sei]

I don't mind the uber trendy clothes. The turks were awesome.

[unknown]

So...do you think Square will take advantage of Tecmo's breast physics engine in the FFXIII games?

[iammako3]

I think Versus looks a little more interesting than XIII. Might accidentally post this picture now there isn't anyone around to get into an arguement with.


lol. ^_^

I'm digging the character and fashion designs. If I could wear stuff like that and look good, I'd be all over it. Needless to say, Versus is Day One for me.

[Sei]

So...do you think Square will take advantage of Tecmo's breast physics engine in the FFXIII games?

Ms Lockhart sure hopes so!

http://www.pulpexplosion.com/games/fflogic/ff7-tifa.jpg

[iammako3]

So...do you think Square will take advantage of Tecmo's breast physics engine in the FFXIII games?

Ms Lockhart sure hopes so!

http://www.pulpexplosion.com/games/fflogic/ff7-tifa.jpg

Individual breast physics crack me up. Still, the merger wouldn't be in time for XIII. However, one of these days Final Fantasy XXX is going to come. That will be a good day. ^_~

[unknown]

I think we'll all be dead when FFXXX rolls around >_>

[Sei]

I think I'll be dead tired from fapping when FFXXX rolls around >_>

^ Fixed!

[unknown]

lol

[allie_razakel]

I have a good feeling that FFXIII would prove to be an even better game than FF Versus XIII.

And a deep foreboding feeling that Versus XIII would be another KH-like game with a KH/FFVII-like story.

And gay too.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x233/Dalmaska/2ic38cp.jpg

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x233/Dalmaska/258o2z5.jpg

They seem to enjoy wrapping their arms around people's neck. 0.o

[iammako3]

^Hot yaoi action, lol.

I liked KH and FFVII. . . uh, so I wouldn't mind at all if Versus was similar. I think I like the Versus characters better (just looking at the 3 or however many I've seen so far from each game. . . so I don't have much to go on which means my opinion could change later). However, it's the battle system of XIII that will make or break it for me. I was not a fan of XII's system, however I also don't want FF games to turn into actionRPGs.

Guess I'll just have to wait until March when the Blu-ray FFVII:AC comes out with the XIII demo!

[allie_razakel]

^Wait. I thought FFXIII is different from FFXII. I see ATBs in the trailer.

[iammako3]

^Wait. I thought FFXIII is different from FFXII. I see ATBs in the trailer.

It is different! Sorry if I wasn't clear in that. I've been hearing that XIII's system is very action based, as in no turn-waiting at all. I was more trying to say that while I didn't want XIII to copy XII's system — which I didn't like — I also didn't want XIII to radically change into some actionRPG. Does that make more sense?

I guess I need to know more about XIII's battle system, is what it boils down to!

[allie_razakel]

^I understand you. But well, it seems to me that it'd be a whole lot better than Versus XIII, which, I heard, would be similar to KH's gameplay (love-interest too? XD).

Right, perhaps I was wrong about ATBs. But in a way, it did look like it's similar to FFX's turn-based system. I mean, I think I did see those little icon/avatar thingie on the side.

I just hope it's not going to be like FFVII:CC. That was really boring and random.

[syl]

I wonder if players will be given the option to skip the cinematics , once they grow tired of repeatedly viewing perfection that can only be obtained in SE's CGI masterpieces.
Final Fantasy Versus XIII: a dash of emo plus a pinch of yaoi minus all the Disney equals Kingdom Hearts 3.

[allie_razakel]

Final Fantasy Versus XIII: a dash of emo plus a pinch of yaoi minus all the Disney equals Kingdom Hearts 3.

THE TRUTH. 8U

[Himuro]

I wonder if players will be given the option to skip the cinematics , once they grow tired of repeatedly viewing perfection that can only be obtained in SE's CGI masterpieces.
Final Fantasy Versus XIII: a dash of emo plus a pinch of yaoi minus all the Disney equals Kingdom Hearts 3.

Really? Because I see a bunch of badass looking Turk-esque dudes in Versus, and amazing art design. I don't see how it looks emo in the least.

Aside from that, the game's got traditional rpg #### going for it like an explorable world map, multiple vehicles you can use, and more. I can't wait.

[unknown]

It's like the Backstreet Boys meets The Godfather or something, except with more FABULOUS

[Zachalmighty]

I don't understand the sudden switch from FFVI to FFVII and above adding all these bishounen's. It's like they think every girl who plays an RPG wants to play as a pretty boy.

[Sakubo]

I don't understand the sudden switch from FFVI to FFVII and above adding all these bishounen's. It's like they think every girl who plays an RPG wants to play as a pretty boy.

Its not just girls. If you look at Japanese culture in general. Anime, Manga, video games, even tv shows. They aim for the pretty boy look. I think its just what they like.

[Himuro]

Maybe its how the average Japanese young adult male looks?

[unknown]

Again, Japan likes FABULOUS

[allie_razakel]

Maybe its how the average Japanese young adult male looks?

Perhaps it's more to the hair.

http://wiki.d-addicts.com/static/images/b/b2/Yama56325.jpg

...I guess. 0.o...HEY, THAT LOOKS LIKE P3'S MAIN CHARACTER. 0_0

And a pretty-boy-shota equivalent:

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x43/YamatoChristelle/Kota%20Yabu/10_KotaYabu.jpg

...I suppose you're quite right, Himuro. 0_0

[syl]

I based my emo opinion of FF Versus XIII on the amount of pure angst that oozes from this trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEX09Nrq3PY

Maybe SQ has ditched all the allusions to Hamlet and decided that the yaoi approach would attract more fan girls.

[allie_razakel]

It's probably the song, Syl.

Such a pretty song though. I wonder if I can get it somewhere. =/

[unknown]

That song didn't sound emo to me, I thought it was pretty good, and that trailer is lame BTW

Here's the full badass version, HD version is better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qKmTomLa4I

Also I have the song if you want it Allie, just pm me.

[syl]

I actually saw that the "bad ass" trailer first. It's just that the "lame" one seems to be more poignant. That chair looks really comfortable for the MC to sit and brood about how unfair the game's storyline and his relationships are.
Seriously, I loved the levitating swords & teleporting. I wonder if that's the MC's weapon or possibly the Knights of the Round summon?

[unknown]

You know why he's sulking? It's because of all those Yaoi fangirls...

Hell, I'd sulk around too if those Backstreet guys were my buddies, and a hawt girl wanted to kill me >___>

Levitating swords reminded me of Unlimited Blade Works, except no cool incantation.

[iammako3]

Having recently been to Japan, I have to tell you that a lot of the younger guys really *do* look like that. ("That" being pretty, young, androgynous boys with feathery, perfect hair.) Now, whether that's because of the recent trend in anime/games or the recent trend in anime/games is from real life, I'm not sure.

Again, there's still a whole lot more to learn about these games, but so far I'm looking forward to Versus XIII more than regular XIII.

[Sei]

Japanese people are pretty. I don't mind pretty people in my games. Certainly like them more than buff 40 yr old bald football players.

[Haderach]

Ultimecia returns

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/5086620081021_151850_2_big.jpg


http://www.gamekyo.com/newsfr29267_final-fantasy-xiii-son-nom-est-snow.html

[jj984jj]

I can't wait to for the game to come out, hopefully the localization/360 version doesn't take too long. Q1 2010? Please S-E.

[Azriel Crusnik]

Having recently been to Japan, I have to tell you that a lot of the younger guys really *do* look like that. ("That" being pretty, young, androgynous boys with feathery, perfect hair.) Now, whether that's because of the recent trend in anime/games or the recent trend in anime/games is from real life, I'm not sure.

Again, there's still a whole lot more to learn about these games, but so far I'm looking forward to Versus XIII more than regular XIII.

I wouldn't mind having that type of style, but It looks expensive.

[Haderach]

Final Fantasy Agito XIII (PSP)

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73131120081023_191547_0_big.jpg

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73131120081023_191547_1_big.jpg

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73131120081023_191547_2_big.jpg

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73131120081023_191547_3_big.jpg


Final Fantasy XIII (PS3/Xbox 360)

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/5086620081023_192726_3_big.jpg

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/5086620081023_192727_4_big.jpg

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/5086620081023_192726_2_big.jpg

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/5086620081023_192726_1_big.jpg

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/5086620081023_192727_5_big.jpg

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/5086620081023_192727_6_big.jpg


Final Fantasy Versus XIII

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/50871420081022_085751_0_big.jpg

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/50871420081023_185151_0_big.jpg

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/50871420081023_185152_1_big.jpg

[Rikuo]

Final Fantasy 13 is probably the only reason i would consider buying a 360.
And from what i've heard from rumors it's going to hit the 360 which once again proves that Sony is doing something to keep the Exclusives, not so exclusive.

[jj984jj]

Agito looks like a spiritual sequel to Crisis Core.

OMG @ FFXIII, I can't wait for demo footage to come out.

[Azriel Crusnik]

Final Fantasy 13 is probably the only reason i would consider buying a 360.
And from what i've heard from rumors it's going to hit the 360 which once again proves that Sony is doing something to keep the Exclusives, not so exclusive.

I read in a recent interview that Sony allowed Enix to port games to the 360, because of financial problems on part of Enix having to many projects. Also "Versus XIII" is an exclusive to Sony (and note that "XIII" is for both 360 and PS3), also remember That many exclusive games for Sony and 360 are coming out this and next year.

[SlaughterX]

New details and video!

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3171826

[Azriel Crusnik]

Final Fantasy XIII has an estimate release of holiday season -Nov-Dec. of 2010. (Informer Magazine)

[frequency]

Oh my...

I had brushed off FF Versus XIII as some side project just to make more money off the FF "brand", but wow. After seeing that trailer, I am looking forward to it MUCH more than FFXIII itself. I had no idea the Kingdom Hearts guys were working on it (I like KH more than FF btw). The setting looks so much more interesting too. <3

Too bad FFXIII is like 2010, so FF Versus XIII will be like... 2012 :p

Maybe that's why it's not going multiplatform. Xbox 720 or whatever would be out by 2012 :p

[Azriel Crusnik]

^ FF XIII and Versus XIII are coming out a couple months apart from each other in japan (hopefully it's the same here in the US)

[SlaughterX]

Official JP site...

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/fabula/

[slayn]

http://kotaku.com/5131154/new-final-fantasy-xiii-character-has-a-fabulous-afro

That guy will never leave my party. I just wish you could rename characters (I'm assuming you can't, what with voice acting and all). I'd name him Sho'nuff.

[System_Error]

Lando

[slayn]

Sho'nuff

[Olethros]

He reminds me of one of the characters from the Fat Albert cartoons.

[DamnedToBeFree]

Holy ####. Awesome.

[Superkenon]

I think I'm sold on Final Fantasy XIII now.

[Camanche]

HE HAS A CHICKEN.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e356/Zausticaa/darkdude.jpg

[Andrew_Fireborn]

Hmm... I remain cautiously optimistic...

Honestly, I don't want to completely dismiss them... but I've hated their last few major new releases... Last Remnant, Eternal Undiscovery, FFXII (And I like, and still play FFXI... XII just... sucked.)

It looks all techno-magical... Which isn't so much an issue, so much as I fully expect the entirety of the party to be wielding melee weapons again against an enemy force of gun equipped soldiers...

Still, I suppose if they're going to have a system like 12 they might be able to make it work better this time around. (Though 12's story was also really weak...)


All that said, Square and Atlus own my soul... I'll likely be buying it anyway... Just like I did with the three games I listed, even knowing I wasn't likely to enjoy them...

[Sei]

It's obvious no black people worked on this game.

[Olethros]

Hmm... I remain cautiously optimistic...

Honestly, I don't want to completely dismiss them... but I've hated their last few major new releases... Last Remnant, Eternal Undiscovery, FFXII (And I like, and still play FFXI... XII just... sucked.)

It looks all techno-magical... Which isn't so much an issue, so much as I fully expect the entirety of the party to be wielding melee weapons again against an enemy force of gun equipped soldiers...

Still, I suppose if they're going to have a system like 12 they might be able to make it work better this time around. (Though 12's story was also really weak...)


All that said, Square and Atlus own my soul... I'll likely be buying it anyway... Just like I did with the three games I listed, even knowing I wasn't likely to enjoy them...

OK, I haven't played INFINITE Undiscovery yet, so I'll not comment on that one.

As for the other two you mentioned (TLR and FFXII), those are two of the best games I've played in YEARS. May I ask what exactly your problem was with them?

[Andrew_Fireborn]

As for the other two you mentioned (TLR and FFXII), those are two of the best games I've played in YEARS. May I ask what exactly your problem was with them?

I liked the system of FFXII for a while. Ultimately it started to go down in fun, IMO, because it just felt too slow even at the fastest speed. Admittedly, this was most likely so you could actually make decisions for any characters you played manually.

The story also just... I got as far as Cid and Famfrit, about an hour after I felt the story went down the drain. From Giruvegan on it just felt bog standard BEYOND bog standard...


Last Remnant has yet to draw me in. Most RPGs have me from go for at least 5 hours, even if they're mediocre... But LR has just dragged on in an entirely uninteresting fashion.

The battle system is interesting, if a little on the wonky side so far, but it's not quite enough to make me want to play it more while I still have P3 & P4 to finish, and a slowly growing back log of other games.

[Las Lobos]

Honestly the only FF games I care for were 6 and Tactics, XII I really liked to but like Andrew_Fireborn said it did kinda take the fun out of it with the battle system.

[SickleCellAnemia]

HE HAS A CHICKEN.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e356/Zausticaa/darkdude.jpg

####ing AWESOME! I'd name him Fo'Sho if I could.

[Camanche]

Looks like a black Spike.

[Olethros]

Honestly the only FF games I care for were 6 and Tactics, XII I really liked to but like Andrew_Fireborn said it did kinda take the fun out of it with the battle system.

I suppose to each their own, but I thought the innovative battle system was awesome. Making it seem real-time while maintaining turn-based control was genius.

For TLR, the story was decent. Once again it's the battle system that was addictive to me.

I get the feeling that both of you are in the younger "I need constant stimulation to keep my interest" bracket. Maybe I'm wrong, but both of your responses seem to fall into the cliche' of our ADHD predominated up-and-coming generation.

[iammako3]

Honestly the only FF games I care for were 6 and Tactics, XII I really liked to but like Andrew_Fireborn said it did kinda take the fun out of it with the battle system.

I suppose to each their own, but I thought the innovative battle system was awesome. Making it seem real-time while maintaining turn-based control was genius.

For TLR, the story was decent. Once again it's the battle system that was addictive to me.

I get the feeling that both of you are in the younger "I need constant stimulation to keep my interest" bracket. Maybe I'm wrong, but both of your responses seem to fall into the cliche' of our ADHD predominated up-and-coming generation.

Wow, way to generalize. I think they were just trying to be polite about why they didn't like them. And Persona 4 (which they mentioned they were playing and loved) is turn-based, which seems to refute your opinion on "constant stimulation" as you can take as loooooong as you want figuring out your moves. Unless I'm getting your meaning wrong?

And what age group is the up-and-coming generation? Because I agree with their thoughts on XII, and I've been playing games since Intellevision. . .

[SickleCellAnemia]

^You're reading too much into his post, Olethros is just old, like ANCIENT.

[Olethros]

Honestly the only FF games I care for were 6 and Tactics, XII I really liked to but like Andrew_Fireborn said it did kinda take the fun out of it with the battle system.

I suppose to each their own, but I thought the innovative battle system was awesome. Making it seem real-time while maintaining turn-based control was genius.

For TLR, the story was decent. Once again it's the battle system that was addictive to me.

I get the feeling that both of you are in the younger "I need constant stimulation to keep my interest" bracket. Maybe I'm wrong, but both of your responses seem to fall into the cliche' of our ADHD predominated up-and-coming generation.

Wow, way to generalize. I think they were just trying to be polite about why they didn't like them. And Persona 4 (which they mentioned they were playing and loved) is turn-based, which seems to refute your opinion on "constant stimulation" as you can take as loooooong as you want figuring out your moves. Unless I'm getting your meaning wrong?

And what age group is the up-and-coming generation? Because I agree with their thoughts on XII, and I've been playing games since Intellevision. . .

How wonderful that you're the exception to the rule. I commend you. However, that doesn't render either my opinion or my assumption as inaccurate.

I would also question why you got all defensive about it when I clearly wasn't talking to you. Perhaps you have some unresolved issues along similar lines? A do-gooder jumping to the defense of the poor traumatized youngins?

[Kakizaki]

Wow, way to generalize. I think they were just trying to be polite about why they didn't like them. And Persona 4 (which they mentioned they were playing and loved) is turn-based, which seems to refute your opinion on "constant stimulation" as you can take as loooooong as you want figuring out your moves. Unless I'm getting your meaning wrong?

There was no need to get so defensive. Turn it down a notch please.

[Andrew_Fireborn]

I get the feeling that both of you are in the younger "I need constant stimulation to keep my interest" bracket. Maybe I'm wrong, but both of your responses seem to fall into the cliche' of our ADHD predominated up-and-coming generation. Heh, I won't deny being in mah 20s, and having my fair share of mental issues.

Still, with RPGs I'm the "Kill everything that moves! Find everything that shines! Open everything locked!" type. And after the 8,000th coyote, and dozenth boss fight that took 20+ minutes not because it was hard or took a lot of thought to beat, but because it was just a giant bar of HP that I could only chip 0.5% off of every 10-30 seconds depending on how often my party missed. (And that's with the best equipment available, and terribly overleveled.)

Not to mention the NMs, a few of the outright bad optional fights... and it starts to grate. I did make it to the 85-90% mark of the story.


It was an interesting battle system. And it did take most of the game for the new to wear and seams to start showing. But I just can't bring myself to pick it back up because in the end, it wasn't that great. It primarily took basic RPG actions, and gave you the option of automating them with a bare bones scripting language.

[Flebsqueeb]

It's obvious no black people worked on this game.

lol. This is true.

[iammako3]

How wonderful that you're the exception to the rule. I commend you. However, that doesn't render either my opinion or my assumption as inaccurate.

I would also question why you got all defensive about it when I clearly wasn't talking to you. Perhaps you have some unresolved issues along similar lines? A do-gooder jumping to the defense of the poor traumatized youngins?

I do like to play Devil's advocate and help out the underdog. ^_^ Honestly, I didn't think my post was that offensive (though apparently it was), so I am sorry if you thought it was. lol, I'm just used to being blunt with people I talk to — I should know better than to transfer that sentiment onto the internet without filters!

On a FFXIII note, does anyone know where one can pre-order the blu-ray version of FFVII:AC from Japan? I'm itching to do so so I can play the demo of XIII when it comes out!

[Azriel Crusnik]

A US release estimate was announced, a no later date of April 2010.

[jj984jj]

A US release estimate was announced, a no later date of April 2010.

You mean no earlier than April 2010.

[RayFoxSith]

On a FFXIII note, does anyone know where one can pre-order the blu-ray version of FFVII:AC from Japan? I'm itching to do so so I can play the demo of XIII when it comes out!

PlayAsia?

[iammako3]

On a FFXIII note, does anyone know where one can pre-order the blu-ray version of FFVII:AC from Japan? I'm itching to do so so I can play the demo of XIII when it comes out!

PlayAsia?

Last I checked they don't have it on their site yet. :-( I'll keep checking back there though. I was just wondering if any other place did have the pre-order option.