Summon Night 1 & 2! [Archive] - Atlus U.S.A. Forums

Ryusui

11-15-2007, 10:57 AM

Yeah, but doesn't this fall under the same thorny Bandai Namco licensing issues that make SRW: OGS a toss-up between an Atlus release, a BN release, or no release at all?

I mean, we got the Swordcraft Story games only because of a kick-ass once-in-a-lifetime package deal with Banpresto...and now Banpresto's BN's baby, so...

sdragon21

11-15-2007, 11:39 AM

If you have the power Atlus, bring these 2 games over,Please!!!!

syl

11-15-2007, 02:52 PM

I'll support any games for the DS!

Hayato

11-15-2007, 03:19 PM

Yeah, but doesn't this fall under the same thorny Bandai Namco licensing issues that make SRW: OGS a toss-up between an Atlus release, a BN release, or no release at all?

Hmm, that's interesting. I assume you're referring to the stuff that was mentioned in the SRW:OGS thread? I actually wasn't aware of that event until now. XD;

I don't claim to have any idea how the internal workings of corporations and such work, so I anything I say about that would be mere conjecture. XD;

I can't really say much more than I hope this gets localized by ANYONE at all; It'd be great if Atlus could do it since I love their localizations quite a bit (while BN kinda... makes me want to kick stuff sometimes :\ and I'm afraid they'll remove or change some of the more... interesting scenes), but I just want these games here since they're quite excellent and have rather interesting game play elements in comparison to other SRPGs.

People deserve to have good games here, y'know? 83;;;

elnegro492003

11-15-2007, 07:01 PM

I...JUST...PEED>>>>in my pants. OMG this will make alot of people VERY HAPPY!!! Having owned and played the japanese versions myself, I gotta say these are games that deserve to be known and played by alot of people :) let's hope that in some way this becomes a reality :lol:

System_Error

11-15-2007, 07:32 PM

I want :[

drunkmoron

11-15-2007, 09:40 PM

I would love to get these. Also I would like to get the ps2 ones too. I prefer the console summon night games over the gba ones because they are srpg

Gwendolyn

11-16-2007, 03:05 PM

Oh god, yes. Bring it over with Twin Age too, hopefully!

Master Zombots

11-16-2007, 06:40 PM

:shock: Wow! I had no idea! Nice find man. I love the Summon Night games; I sure hope these are localized.

sdragon21

11-17-2007, 06:07 PM

There's no reason that these games shouldn't get brought over here. I support this 100%.

Now if you'll excuse me, i'm gonna go play Swordcraft Story 2, i still need to beat that game.

*Runs off to play Swordcraft Story 2*

Hayato

11-20-2007, 09:01 AM

More magazine scans!

http://jeux-france.com/news22765_summon-night-1-2-sur-nintendo-ds.html

Summon Night is scheduled for this spring, with SN2 scheduled for the summer, but we don't have precise release dates and prices yet.

What's new for the DS versions? Not much. The graphics and art are exactly the same. Touch pen support has been added, as has the ability to skip and review conversations. SN1 has Brave Clears now, as well as twice as many summons as the PSX version. For SN2, they've added a map on the top screen during battle.
[source: narugami (http://narugami.livejournal.com/) @ http://community.livejournal.com/summon_night ]

That map on the top screen for SN2 looks really useful! Apparently when you move or select on the bottom screen, the top screen follows and will display ally stats when you select them. That's really useful, hahah. Is this a staple of DS SRPGs? I haven't played too many, just Luminous Arc, and some aspects of the battle system annoyed me a little concerning usage of the top screen.

For the in-town maps, it looks like they've also decided to show the locations of specific characters now. But then how will we do the character side quests, FP!?? It's not much of a challenge to get Yuel if you can see where she is all the time. :|

I guess it's back to watching the SN HP, hahah.

jj984jj

11-22-2007, 11:48 AM

I guess this could be a chance to start from the beginning of the main series.

animedemon

11-26-2007, 04:49 PM

me want but still think it should go to psp cause i have the PS1 ver and tht alot of data for a ds

Hayato

11-26-2007, 11:00 PM

It is. I think it's pretty much guaranteed that they're going to cut out a lot of the voice overs.

I just hope that what they leave will integrate into the game a little better than, say... Luminous Arc? I didn't like the small pauses before and after the voice tracks, lol.

It's really too bad, since the voice overs were probably one of the best things about those games.

RainbowDespair

11-28-2007, 12:53 PM

I really enjoyed Summon Night 3 even without completely understanding what was going on due to the language barrier so getting portable enhanced versions of the first 2 games in English would be fantastic.

animedemon

11-28-2007, 04:30 PM

it sad cause most of the voice over will be gone

meikiyou

12-24-2007, 05:28 AM

^^ bring us the SN series ^^ and give a remake for wii of these 3,and 4 from ps2^^

Hayato

12-29-2007, 12:45 AM

meikiyou

12-29-2007, 04:46 AM

and give a remake for wii of these 3,and 4 from ps2^^

You... realize that you're asking the wrong people, right? Flight-Plan are the developers. Atlus doesn't have anything to do with it. The most we'll see from Atlus (USA) is a localization, if at all.

Also, SRPG on a Wii? I don't see it happening.

u dun see this happenning?first what about the first srpg of alll? fire emblem series?and if u consider that on scans of ousama monogatari they listed the game as srpg so... i think u commit a mistake U_U

i'm just a hyper active child wich was too happy about summon night and as every hyper active child talk without know wht they re talking ¬¬ i know that flight plan is the maker of almost all srpg from banpresto( excluding robot generations) and i came with the same question...maybe u re asking the wrong person, banpresto was bought by namco bandai and now nbgi says that they re gonna absorb completely the banpresto studios U_U maybe if u wanna sn u have to ask nbgi instead U_U

Hayato

01-02-2008, 04:17 PM

Woah, man. No need to take such an offended air.

Regarding the SRPG thing, I meant in general. Fire Emblem hardly counts because it's published by Nintendo themselves (lol first party games), so there's no reason why it wouldn't be on the Wii. You won't be seeing Fire Emblem stuff on anything other than Nintendo consoles to begin with. Other than that, the Wii's hardly anything to choose over other consoles for SRPGs since all you really need is a d-pad and a confirm/cancel button. All the consoles offer that, and other systems (particularly Sony's) already have a history for an extensive RPG library (meaning, if people intend to sell their RPGs, they'd most likely settle for something else, first). The Wii offers controls best suited for party or action games, which is a lot of what you'd find on there already.

Summon Night 4 only came out Nov 06 (I believe?), so it wouldn't need a remake. Neither would SN3, even though it's much older. Why? There's nothing to improve on them, and they're already good enough considering they were developed for a console that isn't even dead yet.

Also regarding that tl;dr about Banpure, if you'd read the previous posts before you, you'd know that I already found out about that, lol.

meikiyou

01-03-2008, 02:07 PM

ok U_U i''m not offended anymore =p

-but why dun count fire emblem only because it is first party?

-i think that turn based s rpg are better than real time ones, but for real time ones the wii is th better choice with the point and click, along with some new creation for gameplay as a paper mario system of time defense-attack with the wiimote "sword slash" would be interesting, games noticed as strategy rpg as senjou no valkyrie would do extremely well on the wii side

-satoru iwata the new chairman of nintendo as former chairman of hal and former worker of mother is the one that wanna rpg for nintenod, he think that sony age is dead, he bought monolith soft,and sent miyamoto to talk for support from nbgi, s-e, and others, alongside with the yasumi matsuno working on a nintendo rpg project alongside with motoi sakuraba(maybe soma bringer?!! or another wii project)

-and why not bring summon night 3 and 4 for wii? a great number of companies are using remake/port games as a way to measure the installed base of the system and make the owners know their games ^^

Hayato

01-29-2008, 03:09 PM

In case anyone's interested, SN1's release date is April 24th. Comes with a DVD preorder bonus, though I'm not entirely sure what's on it besides an "original animation" by studio GONZO and some pvs and tv cms.

There's chat logs now, and a system to take care of your summoned beasts (I assume consistently taking care of them properly will increase their stats or something like that?).

There's also the brave clear system from SN3, so I doubt the game will be as easily broken as the original PSX version was.

You can check out more on their site: http://www.summonnight.net/snworld/sn1ds/

They also have some promotional videos up.

also, old news is old. i know. :|

System_Error

01-29-2008, 03:23 PM

I want. Bad.

Ryusui

01-29-2008, 08:54 PM

It's got good odds. Hopefully Namco Bandai will look at what happened when Gyakuten Saiban got remade on DS and get a clue.

Member

02-04-2008, 07:05 PM

I was reading through these forums just now, and signed up an account simply to enforce the request of having the original PSX versions of Summon Night 1 & 2 translated (although, I doubt we'll get any PSX games still, lol) and pitch in that I'd also like to see Summon Night 3, 4 and EX Thesis translated.

I wanted to create a new thread, but figured it was relevant to this one already... Slap me silly and call me grandma if I thought so erroneously. (:

Dan Druff

02-05-2008, 09:10 AM

We got the Swordcraft Story games only because of a kick-ass once-in-a-lifetime package deal with Banpresto, and now Banpresto's BN's baby, so...
I just thought of something.
Flight-Plan are the developers. Atlus doesn't have anything to do with it. The most we'll see from Atlus (USA) is a localization, if at all.
If Banpresto is only attached to the game as publishers for the Japanese release, couldn't Atlus still step in to localize it for the American release?

Ryusui

02-05-2008, 10:41 AM

That's a good point...it all depends on how possessive Bandai Namco gets.

charwiimario

02-07-2008, 07:50 AM

Wow this game is looking good. I hope Atlus can bring it to America.

ZetaBladeX13

02-22-2008, 12:21 PM

I'd really like to play these, but for the time being, I'm still waiting to get my hands on Swordcraft Story 3 :D

Hayato

04-03-2008, 06:46 PM

Oh, it's been a while. Three weeks until SN1 is released!

In case anyone's interested, the preorder bonus is apparently a DVD with a short OVA on it.

Yeah.

OVA.

I hope this isn't just a rumour. I know for sure that it involves an animation as well as voice actors, so~ Maybe it's true?

If SN1 and 2 ever make it over here, I wonder if we'd get the same kinda preorder bonus.

ETA: Okay, I listened to that interview with Hayato's voice actor. It seems like it really is an anime they have going. Aah, Shimono sounds so excited in some parts~ He makes me want Disgaea 3 to come out faster, OTL

ETA2: lol it was on the CM, too. I feel so behind

dorkatlarge

04-16-2008, 06:29 PM

I just now realized that Summon Night 1 from the PS1 is now being remade for the DS. It will be available in Japan soon. According to one import store, this remake contains a new game system. However, since the original Summon Night was a relatively simple tactical RPG, I assume it will remain a tactical RPG (rather than become an action game like the spinoffs).

I'm not exactly super-excited over the Summon Night series. I liked Swordcraft Story 2 a lot, but I thought SS1 was a little bit dull.

Still... this remake is on the DS, and I believe that console is still commercially viable. I think the DS pretty much welcomes odd and experimental games (and not usually the sort of RTS and FPS games which draw die-hard fans to home consoles). That was one of the strengths of the original Playstation. Development wasn't too expensive, and the userbase was huge, so companies could take chances.

ZetaBladeX13

05-20-2008, 05:48 PM

well, we know that SN1 is still awesome and it isn't out over here XD

continuing to hope for a localization~

If there's gonna be a kickass SRPG on the DS soon (Makai Senki Disgaea ftw), might as well give it a shot with SN 1 & 2 :D

sdragon21

05-23-2008, 09:16 AM

Atlus was able to bring over Summon Night: Twin Age, so there is a possibility we might see these game brought stateside.

ZetaBladeX13

05-25-2008, 06:48 AM

Atlus was able to bring over Summon Night: Twin Age, so there is a possibility we might see these game brought stateside.

^ That's exactly what I was thinking XD

MachineMaiden

05-30-2008, 01:27 PM

I would love to have Summon Night 1 & 2 translated, now even more so since both their remake is on the DS (2 coming out August so we'll probably have to wait for that one). I have Summon Night: Swordcraft Story 1 & 2 for the GBA that Atlus translated and have Summon Night: Twin Age reserved and payed for in full already. I noticed though that Atlus is just translating more of the action ones, I hope they give the tactic ones a chance. I hope that Atlus translates the ones beyond the handhelds as well.

Gwendolyn

06-04-2008, 10:57 PM

I now have SN:TA in my grubby hands and I still need MOAR SUMMON NIGHT.

Atlus, listen to our pleas!

michaeru

06-06-2008, 06:04 AM

Oh, yes yes, more Summon Night. We'll wait for it Atlus.

miruki

06-08-2008, 10:30 AM

I'd prefer Summon Night 3, 4 and Ex-Thesis over 1 and 2, but more Summon Night for the DS would be awesome too.... (still, 3 would be the one I'd like to see localized most. :>)

michaeru

06-09-2008, 03:58 AM

Hm, actually, theres a news that 1 and 2 would have its remake, so lets stick with them first.

Hayato

06-09-2008, 11:35 AM

I'd prefer Summon Night 3, 4 and Ex-Thesis over 1 and 2, but more Summon Night for the DS would be awesome too.... (still, 3 would be the one I'd like to see localized most. :>)

I'd prefer to stick with 1 and 2 for now, actually. xD; I like their stories over 3 and 4, though granted I've only played the first few battles of those two and heard the rest from others. xD; (No time to play such long games anymore...) The character interaction in 2 is just magnificent, and I find it hard to believe that the Magna/Nesty combo can be topped 8'D;; But it'd be great if those could be considered afterwards... Though somehow I think Poison Pink has a greater chance of coming over rather than SN3 or 4.

Exthesis is my favourite and I'd love to see it over here the most, but quite frankly I can't see it here because it's such a short game. The battle system was also pretty experimental, so it's hardly the most exciting thing in the universe - it won't be popular with people around here at all. (I've already heard plenty of criticism for Ys, and Exthesis is somewhat similar.)

miruki

06-09-2008, 01:51 PM

I'd prefer to stick with 1 and 2 for now, actually. xD; I like their stories over 3 and 4, though granted I've only played the first few battles of those two and heard the rest from others. xD; (No time to play such long games anymore...) The character interaction in 2 is just magnificent, and I find it hard to believe that the Magna/Nesty combo can be topped 8'D;; But it'd be great if those could be considered afterwards... Though somehow I think Poison Pink has a greater chance of coming over rather than SN3 or 4.

Exthesis is my favourite and I'd love to see it over here the most, but quite frankly I can't see it here because it's such a short game. The battle system was also pretty experimental, so it's hardly the most exciting thing in the universe - it won't be popular with people around here at all. (I've already heard plenty of criticism for Ys, and Exthesis is somewhat similar.)

I have to admit, I don't know much about the stories of the first and second. *coughs* I only played a little of the first DS remake and I was a little (or rather alot?) disappointed that there was no improvement in the character art, especially the two heroines look so plain and rather dumb. ;_; I know it's very nostalgic but but.. I'd have prefered it if they would have done new character artwork for the remake. I would still buy it if there would be an US release. XD

Mhn, I didn't really like the 3Dness of Poison Pink, though I totally love the art and the name.. :> I'd still prefer SN3+4.

Ex-Thesis really is quite fun, it's a pity that there are so many games I (and others) enjoy that just wouldn't fit in the american market. *sigh* I won't give up hope yet though, since I'm a naive girl. :3

System_Error

07-09-2008, 07:49 PM

Are SN1 & 2 good? Like better then SwordCraft story?

dorkatlarge

07-31-2008, 05:26 PM

Just now saw Summon Night 2 for DS at an import game retailer's site. So I guess it'll be available soon.

According to Hardcore Gaming 101, both games are fairly ordinary strategy RPGs. Summon Night 1 for PS1 was "...a bit on the unbalanced side..." The site also mentions problems with character level growth and long, unskippable scenes. See http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/summonnight/summonnight.htm

Summon Night 2 apparently continued the story from SN1. The PS1 version of SN2 was described as having "...a more balanced difficulty..." as well as the ability to "...save right before battles, which is a bit of a mixed blessing..." See http://hg101.classicgaming.gamespy.com/summonnight/summonnight2.htm

jj984jj

07-31-2008, 05:47 PM

They let you skip scenes and save right before battles in the DS port of 1 I believe, not sure about the balance.

miruki

08-01-2008, 03:50 AM

They let you skip scenes and save right before battles in the DS port of 1 I believe, not sure about the balance.
I've heard they adjusted the balance...

Hayato

08-01-2008, 06:35 AM

Just now saw Summon Night 2 for DS at an import game retailer's site. So I guess it'll be available soon.

August 7th release date! I've been waiting for this.

As for the balance, I wouldn't be surprised if they fixed it. Before, it was so easy to just make a tank of unbelievable power, so. They fixed that problem ages ago, when SN3 came out.

lmfao I still haven't played it. 8| Just can't bring myself to peel that delicious layer of cellophane off...

dorkatlarge

08-13-2008, 05:33 PM

Reworking battle systems for a re-release can be a good thing. But then again, I've heard mixed reactions about the redone battles on a certain recent DS remake of a classic SNES RPG...

Gwendolyn

08-19-2008, 02:28 AM

I think people are just biased towards that certain RPG, mainly because the first remake was released three years ago, which is not that long at all.

For many people (stateside), this may be the first time they're playing SN1&2, as the DS has no regional locks on it at all.

Macstorm

08-19-2008, 10:02 AM

Summon Night: Twin Age was my first foray into the SN world and if the tactical RPG remakes for DS have the same charm, I would love to see them make it over.

xtreme_phoenix

08-19-2008, 10:48 AM

I want this (these?) game(s?).

I always find phrasing desire for compilations difficult.

System_Error

08-19-2008, 10:53 AM

they aren't a compilation, they are separate games.

xtreme_phoenix

08-19-2008, 11:00 AM

oh, you'd think they could fit two ps1 games onto one ds cartridge.

Actually, now that I think about it, no, you couldn't.

Hayato

08-20-2008, 07:07 AM

No, not at all. Most of the voice overs had to be stripped just to make it fit, which I find is a great loss (but I'm a huge fag for voice acting and Midorikawa, so).

xtreme_phoenix

08-20-2008, 11:27 AM

No, not at all. Most of the voice overs had to be stripped just to make it fit, which I find is a great loss (but I'm a huge fag for voice acting and Midorikawa, so).

The english voices would have been mostly #### anyways, and the sound quality will be horrible.

Hayato

08-20-2008, 10:07 PM

No.

ShadowYuri

02-07-2009, 12:13 AM

I see there has been a while since the last post...
But I must say, I am starting to feel rather depressed about the Summon Night remakes making it to North America. I mean, there has been quite a lot of Atlus announcements recently, and still nothing about these games... I enjoyed every game that made it in the US, but these were all spin-off. I would like to experience the strategy games of the series (since I love this type of games and the DS system too).

The only thing that makes me keep hope is that we are talking of two games here (with lots of text each), and if Atlus USA is going to localize them, then the releases would be very close...

Just wanted to let you know that I will support any localization of the Summon Night series if we can have one ! (I think that being my first post here shows this quite well lol)

ShadowYuri

05-20-2009, 01:25 PM

Didn't get much support there. :P

I just wanted to say that now the first 2009 semester is ending (and Atlus will likely announce their plans for the future for the weeks to come), I keep hoping that we'll hear some news about these games, some day.

There, you can throw me rocks now. ;)

Gwendolyn

08-31-2009, 12:42 AM

I'm just chiming in to say that I'm still waiting, Atlus.

And I will wait forever.

Macstorm

08-31-2009, 06:36 AM

It would be nice to see these two as a one game collection like Atlus got Interchannel Holon to do for Legacy of Ys. I'm a sucker for generic tactical RPGs, so this would be right up my alley.

Enzeru

08-31-2009, 02:48 PM

oh, you'd think they could fit two ps1 games onto one ds cartridge.

Actually, now that I think about it, no, you couldn't.
You could always use a 4 Gb cart. :0
But I doubt it, lol.

sdragon21

09-17-2009, 04:04 PM

oh, you'd think they could fit two ps1 games onto one ds cartridge.

Actually, now that I think about it, no, you couldn't.
You could always use a 4 Gb cart. :0
But I doubt it, lol.

Both games are about 128 MBs in size, uncompressed, so it's possible you could store both games on 1 card.
Would still love to see both games come over, despite if they were both on 1 cart or not.

Routou

09-19-2009, 01:38 PM

Definitely a day 1 buy.

axbuswi

09-24-2009, 07:21 PM

I'm very interested! I would love to find out more.
me too, I need more detailed info

HikariInferno

12-05-2009, 08:01 AM

I really interested in this game!!! Please bring this to america!!! I'd but it the day it's released!!!

sfried

12-05-2009, 09:54 AM

I think it would be wise to release this here knowing that the other 2 Swordcraft Story games and Twin Age have made their way here. It'd be nice to know the roots for the franchise.

TheZRK

12-05-2009, 12:51 PM

Please bring these over Atlus!!

jj984jj

12-05-2009, 08:13 PM

HikariInferno

12-05-2009, 08:25 PM

sfried

12-05-2009, 09:45 PM

I think it would be wise to release this here knowing that the other 2 Swordcraft Story games and Twin Age have made their way here. It'd be nice to know the roots for the franchise.

The first 2 games are suppose to be pretty easy though, even the DS versions. Being near-direct ports with most of the VA cut probably turned Atlus away.

Seeing that these games never saw the light of day outside Japan, I don't think the fact that it's a port is a problem.:D To tell the truth, I found that the other summon night games, especially Twin Age, were quite easy, too, but what I love about the franchise is the nice storyline and the addictive gameplay. Yup, I really hope this gets localized. ;)The voice acting issue can quite easily be resolved by using a larger sized card and some high-quality compression (since now card space has gone down somewhat). Of course, the effort involved in making Banpresto to recode the game to support more VA might turn off investors if it weren't for the fact that they can introduce these as gateway installments to the series.

Regardless, complete voice acting is not really a dealbreaker for me.

System_Error

12-06-2009, 12:26 PM

Don't care about VA, I just want a good game. This seems like it could be one

sfried

12-06-2009, 01:45 PM

Don't care about VA, I just want a good game.
You said it, but apparently the people who told others to "stay away" form Disgaea DS think that all the other superficial stuff makes a game. Honestly, I think gameplay matters most.

jj984jj

12-06-2009, 04:04 PM

I don't care about VA much either, but I do care about the balance of a game. These doesn't sound all that great in that department to me, if you want a mindlessly easy SRPG on the DS there are already 2 Luminous Arc games to choose from.

HikariInferno

12-06-2009, 04:49 PM

Personally, I prefer Summon over Luminous Arc any day. :p
The difficulty of a game definitely depends on the person playing it. From what I've heard about the game, though, not too many people have complained about the difficulty. I don't think we'll worry too much about that.

Yukinohi

01-09-2010, 05:58 PM

I love the box art on these games. Too bad they didn't redo the character portraits. Eh well. And to Luminous Arc in the comments above, that game's just for people who like boobies, ridiculous hair, and "moe."

You can't really disagree with me on that one.

ryvl_v.00

03-15-2010, 02:13 AM

Don't care about VA, I just want a good game. This seems like it could be one

Don't care about VA, I just want a good game.
You said it, but apparently the people who told others to "stay away" form Disgaea DS think that all the other superficial stuff makes a game. Honestly, I think gameplay matters most.

I don't care about VA much either, but I do care about the balance of a game. These doesn't sound all that great in that department to me, if you want a mindlessly easy SRPG on the DS there are already 2 Luminous Arc games to choose from.

I agree to all you guys. It's the gameplay and the storyline that matters. Atlus must localize this game, it's too good to not release it.

Wildarms

03-15-2010, 10:10 AM

Sadly, since im a fan of Summon Night games myself, i love them all,... i think that after 3 years we can pretty much say this wont get localized...

MoBoRoS

03-31-2010, 01:25 PM

Day-1 purchase too for me if this gets localised!
Summon Night games will do just fine with the sales if they ever get published imho.

sfried

04-01-2010, 11:43 AM

Sadly, since im a fan of Summon Night games myself, i love them all,... i think that after 3 years we can pretty much say this wont get localized...
As long as it gets here before 7th Dragon, there's hope yet!

Gwendolyn

06-08-2010, 12:40 AM

Sadly, since im a fan of Summon Night games myself, i love them all,... i think that after 3 years we can pretty much say this wont get localized...

I'm also a Harvest Moon fan, Natsume literally takes years to localize the games (a DS game released in Japan in December '08 finally has a release date for somewhere in the second/third quarter of this year; going by the past, that date will probably be pushed back several times).

So what I'm basically saying is that there is always hope.