Elminage

[Sayckeone]

You guys already know about this one; I just wanted to make sure you haven't forgotten about it.

Those that don't, google is your friend.

[RayFoxSith]

I'm a little interested in this one. I'd need a plot synopsis or something more to further my want for this.

[Sayckeone]

How's this to convince you;

First. Person. Dungeon. Crawler.

[RayFoxSith]

Old school, baby.

[Logan]

Couple of scans I found at rpgland. Looks very interesting, I'd probably buy it.

http://www.rpgland.com/content/media/2007/10/eruminajyuu1.thumbnail.jpg (http://www.rpgland.com/content/media/2007/10/eruminajyuu1.jpg) http://www.rpgland.com/content/media/2007/10/eruminajyuu2.thumbnail.jpg (http://www.rpgland.com/content/media/2007/10/eruminajyuu2.jpg)

[Hyperactive]

I probably would to. Haven't played a game like that since the older might and magics on the nintendo and super nintendo.

[Kakizaki]

I would buy this day one.

[Futomimi]

I still want this as much as ever. :(

[PFV]

Maid as a playable class?

Even if I didn't absolutely adore first person dungeon crawlers, I'd probably buy it for that reason alone.

[monkmaster79]

Maid as a playable class?

Even if I didn't absolutely adore first person dungeon crawlers, I'd probably buy it for that reason alone.

Same here.

[Dave3]

I would buy this.

[Master Zombots]

Is this for the DS?

[System_Error]

Is this for the DS?

Look at Scans, jeez Zombots

[Sayckeone]

Is this for the DS?
LOL Joke account confarmed.

The fighter in the first scan looks just like Maximo.

[Kakizaki]

The fighter in the first scan looks just like Maximo.

lol. I was thinking the exact same thing today. I was gonna post it and then I got sidetracked.

[LuminousFaery]

Maid as a playable class?

Even if I didn't absolutely adore first person dungeon crawlers, I'd probably buy it for that reason alone.

Same here.

I. Love. Maids. Wish I could work at a maid cafe. *dreams*

[Kid Marin]

Even the cover looks like Wizardrish.

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/51TRy7A-lcL._SS400_.jpg

[monkmaster79]

Crazy looking.

[tross]

Looks interesting. This is why I haven't gotten a current gen system yet. Atlus has the potential to bring us more rpgs from Japan, that are on ps2. Besides, ps2 is still the rpg console. I have a ds as well, and I think ds/ps2 is the best rpg combo. But most ds rpgs are still on the way, though. The point is, I saved money, by waiting to buy a ps3, and I hear about all the games that could be translated for ps2. None of the new systems have any instant classics yet anyways. All they have is shooters, which kind of sucks. But the ps3 has the potential to be the next rpg console. I'll stick with my ps2 for now, which is currently superior. I like my rpgs to be dark, and I generally prefer an old school difficulty, and open ended character development, but the storyline is usually the most important element for me. Well, except in the case of Etrian Odyssey, which was so well done, that its lack of a storyline is ok. Anyone know if that Baroque game is my type of rpg? I guess I can read reviews first. And this game sounds good too. Hopefully we will get this one as well.

[Kakizaki]

My god, take a breath.

[Sayckeone]

Yeah, I really couldn't even read that.

[ViolenceJack]

Mmmm I could go for another Dungeon Crawler.

[Lamace]

While this isn't my favorite style of RPG, and the character designs seem a bit lacking, I would support this title. Looks interesting, and is that a catgirl I see in the first scan?

[Sayckeone]

How are the character designs lacking?

[DamageCity]

I would order this and I don't even have a PS2 yet.

[Sayckeone]

Again, just making sure Atlus hasn't forgotten about this.

Two months till the JPN release, so I'm expecting something in the near future. Don't let me down, Atlus.

[Kakizaki]

It isn't some random Success title, so we might as well forget about it.

[Sayckeone]

:(

[System_Error]

Dammit Atlus, don't make Saycke cry. :(

[Sayckeone]

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4046/pa1115142kq7.jpg http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/308/pa1115143ba4.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6420/pa1115145dt8.jpg http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2168/pa1115144ac6.jpg

[Kid Marin]

Nice new pics. :o

[Sayckeone]

There are more at the official site.

http://www.s-f.co.jp/soft/ps2/elminage/

[Kakizaki]

Looking better all of the time.

[Futomimi]

:( I still want.

Plleeeeeeaaaaassseeeee, Atlus?

[RayFoxSith]

<3

[teekun]

Just heard about this for the first time and it looks great, but it's not out in Japan until the end of March, right? What if it sucks?

[Sayckeone]

That's a chance I'm willing to take.

[Futomimi]

God, that avatar is creepy.

[RayFoxSith]

God, that avatar is creepy.

[Olethros]

I fully support this game being localized. Please?

[Camanche]

Whoa, this looks old school. I'd go for this anyday.

[Atlus Fan]

Just spent a few minutes roaming around the game’s site (http://www.s-f.co.jp/soft/ps2/elminage/) and I agree this game does look very interesting.

Does anyone know where I can find trailer(s) for this game?

[Arjuna]

I haven't taken a look because the game title sounded like some kind of game show, but #### yes bring it over Atlus.

[Kakizaki]

This game gives me a boner.

[Arjuna]

Hot doggin'

[Kakizaki]

You're in.

[busterj990]

This game looks great! I would definatly buy it. :D

[Zachalmighty]

I sense great win from this one.

[Kid Marin]

Scores from Dengeki PS magazine :

Elminage: Yami no Fujo to Kamigami no Yubiwa (PS2, Starfish): 80 / 80 / 80 / 70

[Zachalmighty]

Not too bad but I guess it is because the game is 1st person and most people don't like that style.

[Kakizaki]

^That is a good score no matter what.

[Voodoo]

Since it looks like bribery might be working out over on the Izuna thread im going to give it a try.

In return for the Localization of the wonderful looking game i will give you...Drum Roll please
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Master Zombots

Master Zombots comes completely with his trade mark pink DSlite and every ####ing DS game known to man. Its actually a better deal then it seems cause you can sell the games and then pimp Zombots out on a street corner whenever you need some extra cash.

[Olethros]

^ LOL. I'd be SHOCKED if they didn't take you up on this one.

[System_Error]

Since it looks like bribery might be working out over on the Izuna thread im going to give it a try.

In return for the Localization of the wonderful looking game i will give you...Drum Roll please
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Master Zombots

Master Zombots comes completely with his trade mark pink DSlite and every ####ing DS game known to man. Its actually a better deal then it seems cause you can sell the games and then pimp Zombots out on a street corner whenever you need some extra cash.

WTF. LOL

[Voodoo]

Just so you don't forget :D

[Sayckeone]

Just so you don't forget :D

[PFV]

Just so you don't forget :D

[Olethros]

Just so you don't forget :D

[RayFoxSith]

Just so you don't forget :D

[Kakizaki]

Not much of a chance, but I wish UFO would take a look at this since they published another Starfish developed title.

[Sanctine]

Not much of a chance, but I wish UFO would take a look at this since they published another Starfish developed title.

I think at Siliconera, in an interview, UFO confirmed they weren't publishing Eliminage, but said they had never heard of it, and will look into it.

[Kakizaki]

:x Doh!

[Kakizaki]

Big 'ole bumpity

[Sayckeone]

Tig ol' bitties.

Oh wait, I thought this was the WAT.

[Kakizaki]

^I haven't heard that for years. I want it as my title here.

[Sayckeone]

lol Good luck with that one!

[Olethros]

Moving it on up as a reminder :mrgreen:

[Voodoo]

This game shouldn't need a reminder. If Atlus really liked us they would already be working on it :wink:

[Foryth]

Damn this game sure needs my loving. From the screens it looks pretty hot.

[Baddbear]

I hadn't even heard of this game until now...but now that I know, I'll cast my lot and say this would be a day one purchase.

[Jonboy]

This looks... boring. I just saw some off-sync gameplay vids on youtube for this (as well as those screens) and yeah... I'd skip it.

I do see alot of people interested in it so far though... so what's the deal? Story? Perhaps the old school charm oozing from it's screens? Damn sure doesn't seem like gameplay is the hook here.

[RayFoxSith]

^Uhh...first person dungeon crawler? Hello?

[Jonboy]

^Uhh...first person dungeon crawler? Hello?

Yeah I know. I'm not liking it just by the looks of it, but maybe there's more to it than just gameplay. Maybe the story is a redeeming quality.

[Sanctine]

Yeah I know. I'm not liking it just by the looks of it, but maybe there's more to it than just gameplay. Maybe the story is a redeeming quality.

These types of games are entertaining in their own right. As in, yes, gameplay. Maybe not to you, but to the rest of us, that's the case.

[Jonboy]

Yeah I know. I'm not liking it just by the looks of it, but maybe there's more to it than just gameplay. Maybe the story is a redeeming quality.

These types of games are entertaining in their own right. As in, yes, gameplay. Maybe not to you, but to the rest of us, that's the case.

Gotcha.

[Kakizaki]

This looks... boring......... Damn sure doesn't seem like gameplay is the hook here.

Some people would say the same about the SRW OG titles.

[Jonboy]

This looks... boring......... Damn sure doesn't seem like gameplay is the hook here.

Some people would say the same about the SRW OG titles.

Not sure why you brought that up (honestly it just seems like you're getting defensive), but that can hold true for any other game you or I may like.

Since you've brought it up though, I could go on and on about why OGs would be a much wiser choice for localization if a company had to choose, but there's no need for that. :wink:

[Kakizaki]

^No, you could and I could counter with how many people thought EO looked bland just as you think Elminage looks bland as they are very similar games. Despite that, EO turned out to be quite a small, yet surprising success for Atlus.

All you can do is speculate how another SRW title would do. You have absolutely no idea.

[Jonboy]

^No, you could and I could counter with how many people thought EO looked bland just as you think Elminage looks bland as they are very similar games. Despite that, EO turned out to be quite a small, yet surprising success for Atlus.

All you can do is speculate how another SRW title would do. You have absolutely no idea.

Speculation! I could live with that.

Maybe OGs wouldn't sell through the roof, but I know it would sell better than this. LOL MAZES N' MONSTERZ.

It takes just one announcement of a PS2 SRW title to set off a super fanboy explosion bigger than this world has ever known. There's alot of them fanboys, I'll tell you that. People have been wanting to play the PS2 SRW titles ever since youtube whored the attack animations.

"OMG, is this coming out in America?"

"...It hasn't been announced, but there's a chance. These are all original robots".

What else will happen? Game sites will rejoice that the US FINALLY receives one of the PS2 titles! SRWG.org will throw a celebration party somewhere! Infinite praise for Atlus (or anyone who decides to bring it over)!

This game however, looks like pebble-splash material.

Maybe Elminage would work better as a DS title than a PS2 title. I'll also admit that Elminage probably has more of a chance of being translated than OGs does. So uh, in the end, you guys win. :D

[Futomimi]

Maybe OGs wouldn't sell through the roof, but I know it would sell better than this. LOL MAZES N' MONSTERZ.

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This game however, looks like pebble-splash material.

This guy is just a troll. Moving on.

[Kakizaki]

Game sites will rejoice that the US FINALLY receives one of the PS2 titles!

Outside of a handful of sites, there wouldn't be a large reception.


LOL MAZES N' MONSTERZ


Subpar and generic mecha designs with a hokey generic storyline aren't any better. Before you say anything, I have been a fan of the SRW titles to a minor degree for a little over ten years. The OG titles are weak.

I am not suggesting that Elminage would sell far better than a new SRW OG title in the 'states, but I think you are grossly overestimating how well a SRW title would do in comparison. I am guessing that there were more copies put into retail outlets in the first place so this isn't entirely fair, but it was pretty easy to find the SRW OG GBA titles discounted in stores a year after their release. Good luck saying the same about EO.

[Sei]

I dunno, I think the PS2 games would probably become rare rather fast. For some reason those kinds of games didn't really seem work on the GBA, I don't remember Zoe for GBA selling like hotcakes either, nor Onimusha tactics, or the other games in the genre that didn't have the words Advance Wars in the title.

The OG games are fine, in fact I prefer them to the more mainline SRT games in that they are pretty contained and you don't get quite as big a mash of characters/mechs that don't belong/fit. It's a Mech anime game, based in Mech anime shows like Gundam, it tries to replicate those kinds of fights, not to be a super balanced Tactics Ogre contender. Quite niche, but so are 1st person dungeon crawlers. It's mechs were a bit derivative, and the plot was a bit cliche, but I thought that was part of the point.

I don't see why they get so much flak from the regulars to be honest, but oh well. I don't think he is necessarily a troll as people come out to say that they like/don't like a suggestion ALL THE TIME. And it really wasn't him who threw OG in, but someone else to take a shot at him in a "no, your game is more stupid" kinda way, and he was just trying to defend himself.

I'd buy both this and OG.

[Jonboy]

I don't see why they get so much flak from the regulars to be honest, but oh well. I don't think he is necessarily a troll as people come out to say that they like/don't like a suggestion ALL THE TIME. And it really wasn't him who threw OG in, but someone else to take a shot at him in a "no, your game is more stupid" kinda way, and he was just trying to defend himself.

That's pretty much it, man. Kakizaki's response was pretty childish. The guy probably looked around on the forum for some "argument material" and found my post on the OGs board. That's some loser #### if you ask me.

We get it, dude. You hate that game and like this one. That's all it boils down to.

Now if a regular came along and took a mean #### all over a topic for a game suggestion he/she doesn't agree with, it wouldn't be much of a big deal now would it? Other regs would join in, in some cases.

Trust me, a troll I am not! But I have to admit that, as a side effect of my defense, a tiny little bit of the beast might come out. :D

[Kakizaki]

Kakizaki's response was pretty childish. The guy probably looked around on the forum for some "argument material" and found my post on the OGs board. That's some loser #### if you ask me.

Ah no. You had two consecutive posts in two threads located in the same area. It was more coincidence and a response to this on your part:



This looks... boring.

Merely stating that a game looks boring based on some poorly shot footage is pretty lame. Yeah, I did bring SRW into it, but I could have just as easily gone into the other thread and said the same. Your responses following that were little different to mine, except I have not resorted to making any attacks on your personal character. You felt the need to get defensive about the game didn't you?

At least I have some experience with the SRW series to base my opinion upon.

Now if a regular came along and took a mean #### all over a topic for a game suggestion he/she doesn't agree with, it wouldn't be much of a big deal now would it? Other regs would join in, in some cases.

I love it when people try to use this. They are often negligent to many of the flame wars that have gone between regs. This includes game suggestions.

[Jonboy]

[quote]
Merely stating that a game looks boring based on some poorly shot footage is pretty lame. Yeah, I did bring SRW into it, but I could have just as easily gone into the other thread and said the same. Your responses following that were little different to mine, except I have not resorted to making any attacks on your personal character. You felt the need to get defensive about the game didn't you?

In the end, both of us got defensive for our respective games, but hey.... you started. So long as you admit that.

As for the footage, the audio was off-sync, but the gameplay was going smoothly. That was enough for me to know that I would eventually pop some other game in after the first few battles.

[Sanctine]

As for the footage, the audio was off-sync, but the gameplay was going smoothly. That was enough for me to know that I would eventually pop some other game in after the first few battles.

Which is exactly the point. Coming into this thread and letting us know this looks boring to you is weird, and completely unneeded information. Honestly, where did you think this would go?

[Jonboy]

As for the footage, the audio was off-sync, but the gameplay was going smoothly. That was enough for me to know that I would eventually pop some other game in after the first few battles.

Which is exactly the point. Coming into this thread and letting us know this looks boring to you is weird, and completely unneeded information. Honestly, where did you think this would go?

Do you still think I can't say the game is boring based off of what I saw? It's not like I'd change my mind if the audio was in-sync. It wouldn't make much of a difference. The visual presentation was alive and kicking.

It didn't have to go down this route. It really didn't. Someone can't express their opinion of a game (no matter what it may be) or else things would come to this? It really ruins your day for someone else to feel otherwise about a game? Hell, you could've just ignored me!

Honestly, things could've stopped at your previous post in response to mine. Then the other dude came into the picture, basically provoked an into-netz fight and I unfortunately responded. I feel bad for doing so, really.

[Kakizaki]

You realize that I basically said a handful words that set you off. You could have done the same and ignored them. You are right, it is fine to state your opinion, but you are kidding yourself if you think no one would have acted the same, if not worse which you are proving, if I were to come in and make comments in the same vein as yours here in the SRW thread.

Again, at least my opinion would have been backed up with actual experience from the SRW titles.

[System_Error]

Hey guys, shut up k? This thread doesn't need to get locked because of some stupid ass flaming.

[Jonboy]

Hey guys, shut up k? This thread doesn't need to get locked because of some stupid ass flaming.

You're right, it's stupid... but he started it!

*Knocks over a pitcher of water then runs...*

[Sanctine]

Do you still think I can't say the game is boring based off of what I saw? It's not like I'd change my mind if the audio was in-sync. It wouldn't make much of a difference. The visual presentation was alive and kicking.

It didn't have to go down this route. It really didn't. Someone can't express their opinion of a game (no matter what it may be) or else things would come to this? It really ruins your day for someone else to feel otherwise about a game? Hell, you could've just ignored me!

Honestly, things could've stopped at your previous post in response to mine. Then the other dude came into the picture, basically provoked an into-netz fight and I unfortunately responded. I feel bad for doing so, really.

I'm so confused. How in the world did you get all that from what I said?

[Jonboy]

Do you still think I can't say the game is boring based off of what I saw? It's not like I'd change my mind if the audio was in-sync. It wouldn't make much of a difference. The visual presentation was alive and kicking.

It didn't have to go down this route. It really didn't. Someone can't express their opinion of a game (no matter what it may be) or else things would come to this? It really ruins your day for someone else to feel otherwise about a game? Hell, you could've just ignored me!

Honestly, things could've stopped at your previous post in response to mine. Then the other dude came into the picture, basically provoked an into-netz fight and I unfortunately responded. I feel bad for doing so, really.

I'm so confused. How in the world did you get all that from what I said?

lol... I might've misinterpreted. My bad. :(

The other guy still took it, though.

[Kakizaki]

Hey guys, shut up k? This thread doesn't need to get locked because of some stupid ass flaming.

Fair enough. I'm afraid the first was locked as well. :?

[Sayckeone]

I hate when I'm late for this ####.

[&gt;:-(]

Nevermind, the game is just blend:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PeejWT6Ru0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lpyo6A97kg

[Olethros]

^ Yes, absolutely totally blend dude. Way better than liquify.

[Jalopy]

I'm interested in this game, but from the videos I've seen, the load times look absolutely brutal. Are there any other recent PS2 Wizardry style games that don't have bad load times?

[Kakizaki]

There are a ton of PS2 Wizardry titles......

[teekun]

Wow, that dungeon loading time is ridiculous.

I don't know if the gameplay is any good but the visuals definitely don't sell it. Reminds me of a PS1 game.

[RayFoxSith]

...............

[Olethros]

...............

[Voodoo]

Missing posts = Elminage confirmed

[System_Error]

nah its Growlanser 6 >_>

[PFV]

Elminage backwards is Eganimle.

Eganimle in binary is 01000101011001110110000101101110011010010110110101 10110001100101

and if you take that and... bah, #### it.

[growlanservoter]

This one looks iknteresting but where do you get growlancer 6 and confirmed from missing posts? Also didn't someone say atus was done translating PS2 games? Now I am really confused. :oops:

[Voodoo]

It was a joke

[Constraint]

Looks like a ####ty version of Dragon Quest.
and I mean a ####ty ####ing version.

[System_Error]

how does it look like DQ at ####ing all?

[Futomimi]

Looks like a ####ty version of Dragon Quest.
and I mean a ####ty ####ing version.

.... What?
Dragon Quest isn't always first-person, isn't a dungeon crawler, and doesn't have the character creation+class system that this game does. Research more before you say stupid crap like this.

edited for grammerz.

[Voodoo]

Apparently Atlus supplies each Reg their very own Arch-nemesis.

[Jonboy]

how does it look like DQ at ####ing all?

Well, technically it isn't a clone of DQ.

However, he's probably referring to the battles. They're both first-person with no representation of the protagonists on-screen.

The battles contained most of the excitement in DQ games making it arguably the series' most memorable aspect. So, you can't blame him for saying this game looks like DQ.

[Voodoo]

Seeing as their 2 different types of games yes you can blame him.

[RayFoxSith]

And I quote, from George Carlin:

"AH! He's full of ####!"

[Olethros]

^ Gonna miss George, but at least he left us with a wealth of good quotes.

Also, where the hell is my Elminage? Seriously Atlus, stop dicking around now. It's not funny anymore.

[RayFoxSith]

Oooooooooooooh, that's where that post is! ####, my bad.

[Olethros]

lol Ray. I thought it might have been out of place, but hey, I wasn't going to say anything.

[System_Error]

Don't forget Atlus.

[Sayckeone]

I haven't forgotten... that this isn't coming out here.

[James Fiend]

40 second loading times and state-of-the-art "Eye of the Beholder" graphics combined with lots of menu scrolling = no thanks. If this is your kind of game, though, you have my respect and admiration and love.

[Kakizaki]

Outside of faster loading times, Etrian Odyssey is quite similar to Eliminage as the embodiment of classic dungeon crawling. EO is doing quite nicely for Atlus. I remember people making a lot of similar comments in regards to EO on other message boards before it was out in the U.S.

[James Fiend]

Outside of faster loading times, Etrian Odyssey is quite similar to Eliminage as the embodiment of classic dungeon crawling. EO is doing quite nicely for Atlus. I remember people making a lot of similar comments in regards to EO on other message boards before it was out in the U.S.Etrian Odyssey looks a little more colorful and slightly more exciting than this, to be honest. This game looks like any old D&D Unlimited Adventures game which I don't mean as a compliment as a modern release.

[Kakizaki]

^It looks nothing like those.

-edit- The ironic part about your claim is that if I was to post pictures from those D&D titles and make a poll about what title they look most similar to (EO or Eliminage), I guarantee it would be EO. See map sections of mentioned D&D titles...

[James Fiend]

^It looks nothing like those.

-edit- The ironic part about your claim is that if I was to post pictures from those D&D titles and make a poll about what title they look most similar to (EO or Eliminage), I guarantee it would be EO. See map sections of mentioned D&D titles...The map sections look the same in any dungeon crawler. I'm referring to the environments and the monsters and the characters. Judging from the videos, Eliminage has such exciting new environments as caves and castle corridors. I also marveled at the static graphic elements. Hey there's a closed treasure chest. One frame later, it's wide open and there's gold on the ground. Uh oh, giant static bugs floating in front of me.

Everything else was just navigating menus that take up the whole screen, while admittedly Eye of the Beholder was a little more organized with the drag and drop stuff.

I'm really curious why it would take almost a full minute to load into dungeons.

[Kakizaki]

How much footage is even available of Eliminage? Practically zero. EO simply replaced indoor and cave corridors with outside corridors.....at first. That is hardly revolutionary. Static enemies? EO's are static as well.

Like I said, outside of the lengthy loading times, all of the same criticisms you are making towards Elminage were leveled at EO before it was out.


edit- After rewatching the existing game play footage, I will again state that the bestiary looks pretty interesting and varied. Static yes, but so is EO.

[James Fiend]

How much footage is even available of Eliminage? Practically zero. EO simply replaced indoor and cave corridors with outside corridors.....at first. That is hardly revolutionary. Static enemies? EO's are static as well.

Like I said, outside of the lengthy loading times, all of the same criticisms you are making towards Elminage were leveled at EO before it was out.


edit- After rewatching the existing game play footage, I will again state that the bestiary looks pretty interesting and varied. Static yes, but so is EO.If this game was published on the DS, it might be able to compete with some of the other generic budget fantasy dungeon crawlers. On the PS2, I just don't see it.

[Kakizaki]

If this game was published on the DS, it might be able to compete with some of the other generic budget fantasy dungeon crawlers. On the PS2, I just don't see it.

Yes, because there is a huge glut of first person dungeon crawlers in the U.S. in general - both on consoles and handhelds. How could I forget that. Not like srpgs -- there are hardly any of those out is there?

Besides the fact that hardly any of us here honestly believe Atlus will pick this up, you are missing the point. People don't play these types of titles for eye candy. They play them for the battle system, the character customization, and the exploration. Traits that EO posses and Elminage appears to posses.

Much like how many people became interested in Wizardry ToFL of PS2 after EO came out or how vets of first person dungeon crawlers were excited by the throwback qualities of EO.

[James Fiend]

Yes, because there is a huge glut of first person dungeon crawlers in the U.S. in general - both on consoles and handhelds. How could I forget that. Not like srpgs -- there are hardly any of those out is there?

Besides the fact that hardly any of us here honestly believe Atlus will pick this up, you are missing the point. People don't play these types of titles for eye candy. They play them for the battle system, the character customization, and the exploration. Traits that EO posses and Elminage appears to posses.

Much like how many people became interested in Wizardry ToFL of PS2 after EO came out or how vets of first person dungeon crawlers were excited by the throwback qualities of EO.I'm not saying it's a bad game (who knows from gameplay videos), I'm saying I just can't see a methodical dungeon crawler with subpar graphics and terrible loading times with no established name selling well on the PS2 in the west. If it were sort of generic looking SRPG with the same name, graphics and style, I don't think it would sell well either, to be fair.
Whether or not anyone thinks this will be picked up has no bearing on my opinion.

[Kakizaki]

Reread my last post.

There aren't any first person dungeon crawlers that come out in the U.S. outside of EO. Period. Yet there is a market. Hard for something to be generic when it doesn't exist.

There are a ton of srpgs coming out and many look the same.

Plus -- reread the part where I claimed that all of us requesting it don't honestly believe Atlus would touch it.

[James Fiend]

There aren't any first person dungeon crawlers that come out in the U.S. outside of EO. And my point is, maybe there's a reason for that. It's like saying "There aren't any 2D basketball games coming out." There are people who probably loved NBA Jam, and it might be feasible on the DS, but nobody is going to buy NBA Jam on the PS2, especially if it doesn't appear to add anything new and interesting.

Mutant League Basketball, on the other hand...

[Kakizaki]

^Then why does EO have such a strong following? That wasn't your point. You are flopping all over the place.


I've said it numerous times already. It is your type of thinking that prevented titles like EO from coming to the U.S. in the past based off of assumptions. The people who assumed EO wasn't going to do well couldn't have been more wrong.

[James Fiend]

^Then why does EO have such a strong following? That wasn't your point. You are flopping all over the place.


I've said it numerous times already. It is your type of thinking that prevented titles like EO from coming to the U.S. in the past based off of assumptions. The people who assumed EO wasn't going to do well couldn't have been more wrong.I'm not flopping at all. The game looks terrible and I can't imagine anybody buying or playing it. The argument that another game in the same genre sold ok on a portable just isn't very strong, especially when you you have to use that game to keep explaining why this "might" be viable.

I don't know or care what people said about Etrian Odyssey before it came out, that doesn't mean any crappy looking dungeon crawler is going to do well in America, especially on a home console and especially when it looks this outdated and slow.

[Hitoshura]

^Hate to tell you but, everyone who has a DS has a PS2. Zombots is the only exception.

Therefore, you are full of ####, or just plain stupid, for thinking that a dungeon crawler would not to well on a system that everyone already has, but it did amazingly well on a system that not everyone has.

Think. Then think again. THEN post.

[Kakizaki]

I don't know or care what people said about Etrian Odyssey before it came out, that doesn't mean any crappy looking dungeon crawler is going to do well in America, especially on a home console and especially when it looks this outdated and slow.

You have blatantly ignored absolutely everything I have stated. Here it is again for your convenience:


you are missing the point. People don't play these types of titles for eye candy. They play them for the battle system, the character customization, and the exploration. Traits that EO posses and Elminage appears to posses.

Again, after EO ,on the DS, came out, there was an upsurge in titles such as Wizardry TotFL, on the PS2.

[James Fiend]

^Hate to tell you but, everyone who has a DS has a PS2. Zombots is the only exception.

Therefore, you are full of ####, or just plain stupid, for thinking that a dungeon crawler would not to well on a system that everyone already has, but it did amazingly well on a system that not everyone has.

Think. Then think again. THEN post.I have no idea what you're talking about. I never said anything about who owns what systems. Something basic like a dungeon crawler is more acceptable on a portable than on a console, that's my point. I don't think there's much of a market left for subpar RPGs on the PS2, let alone something as antiquated as first person dungeon crawlers that don't appear to bring anything new to the table.

Oh, and you're a ####ty pants and dumb and a bad person or whatever. Insults on messageboards is sooo edgy and really gets your point across.

@Kakizaki
The terrible "eye candy" is just one of many points I've made. Just because you like dungeon crawlers doesn't mean you are going to enjoy EVERY dungeon crawler, does it?

The biggest problem I see with this game is that it doesn't appear to bring anything new to a genre that is as old as video games itself. If you know something about this game that sticks out, by all means, let me in on it. Don't just say "Well there was this other game of the same genre that didn't totally bomb on the DS" because that doesn't explain what is so great about this title.

[Kakizaki]

^Let me ask? Why are you here? Every post so far has been dedicated to this thread or making nonsensical ones in the SRT thread.

You aren't interested in this game. So what? Some of us are. You obviously aren't into FPS dungeon crawlers otherwise you would understand that the appeal of EO is that it plays like old dungeon crawlers. I could care less about SRT OG at this point. Should I continue to post it?


I have explained myself over and over. I will put this up one more god damn time:

you are missing the point. People don't play these types of titles for eye candy. They play them for the battle system, the character customization, and the exploration. Traits that EO posses and Elminage appears to posses.

[Kakizaki]

I would also like to note that I have been discussing this game with someone who is currently playing it -- someone who is pretty well known for selling imports online and has for a while.

[James Fiend]

^Let me ask? Why are you here? Every post so far has been dedicated to this thread or making nonsensical ones in the SRT thread.

You aren't interested in this game. So what? Some of us are. You obviously aren't into FPS dungeon crawlers otherwise you would understand that the appeal of EO is that it plays like old dungeon crawlers. I could care less about SRT OG at this point. Should I continue to post it?


I have explained myself over and over. I will put this up one more god damn time:

you are missing the point. People don't play these types of titles for eye candy. They play them for the battle system, the character customization, and the exploration. Traits that EO posses and Elminage appears to posses.Wrong, I also posted in the Cyberbots thread. I am also the only one who even mentions Super Robot Taisen in that particular thread.
As for this thread, I'm engaged in a discussion. I'm not sure why you're throwing a temper tantrum. I also see plenty of people posting in the Super Robot Taisen thread who don't like that game (and have posted for the sole purpose of stating that they don't like the game), so I guess I'm trying to blend in.
As for questioning me as to "why I'm here," I don't see a moderator tag under your name, so I don't think you have the authority to make me justify myself for posting here. I could list all the Atlus games I own but I'm not that kind of douchebag, so you'll have to take me for my word that I'm a fan.
If you want me to stop posting in this thread, you could always stop responding. I can't converse with myself.

FINALLY, back to the discussion at hand.
I asked you to name one thing about this game that makes it look interesting or stand out and you've responded that it seems to be a dungeon crawler.
You don't think that's like me posting in the Poison Pink thread and saying "It has characters that you move around and they take turns attacking, and I see some stats. Therefore, as a fan of tactical RPGs, this game is a must have?"

I'm honestly just curious as to what seems so good about this game. Specifically.

[James Fiend]

I would also like to note that I have been discussing this game with someone who is currently playing it -- someone who is pretty well known for selling imports online and has for a while.That's cool. You have some insight, so now you can tell me what is good about it.

[Kakizaki]

If you want me to stop posting in this thread, you could always stop responding. I can't converse with myself.

Don't take that lame route -- reminds me a little too much of someone else. As I have already said, you stated that you don't care for it. I'm not sure why this title intimidates you so much or why you feel so compelled to go after this particular title.

I'm not sure why you're throwing a temper tantrum.

Maybe it is because you insist on asking why someone would possibly like a title such as this and I have repeated myself several times. You can ignore it, but quit asking then. I figured you must have a problem reading. Maybe poor eyesight because you neglect the obvious.

As for questioning me as to "why I'm here," I don't see a moderator tag under your name, so I don't think you have the authority to make me justify myself for posting here.

Because you obviously have little interest in actually engaging in anything other then pestering others, I can only assume you are someone who was spurned here in the past.

I asked you to name one thing about this game that makes it look interesting or stand out and you've responded that it seems to be a dungeon crawler.

I can only assume you are dim now. I have listed at least three factors of interest numerous times.

[Hitoshura]

I really have no good rebuttal so instead of trying to cope with the reality that I am a moron who can't make the correlation between "game does good on one system, interest for said genre rises immensely on other system, everyone HAS both systems", I am going to pull more #### out of my ass and pretend like everyone is nice on the internet, and nobody is blunt about me being an idiot.

Ah, okay, glad we got that sorted out.

Sorry kid, but people insult each other on the internet. This has nothing to do with the validity of the content of the post, it simply means that the poster is fed up with the inanity of your complete ignorance of the facts.

[James Fiend]

Ah, okay, glad we got that sorted out.

Sorry kid, but people insult each other on the internet. This has nothing to do with the validity of the content of the post, it simply means that the poster is fed up with the inanity of your complete ignorance of the facts.It seems obvious that validity of the content of posts means nothing to you. This post and your clever quoting are evidence of that. If posts on message boards make you "fed up" and insult people, maybe you need some help or a new hobby.

[James Fiend]

Don't take that lame route -- reminds me a little too much of someone else. As I have already said, you stated that you don't care for it. I'm not sure why this title intimidates you so much or why you feel so compelled to go after this particular title.

I don't think I'm really going after it. I criticized, got a response, responded to the response, and that's how threads keep going. I don't understand what is appealing about this game and am genuinely interested in figuring it out. I play rpgs, and jrpgs and many of the members of this forum seem to really want this game localized.

Maybe it is because you insist on asking why someone would possibly like a title such as this and I have repeated myself several times. You can ignore it, but quit asking then. I figured you must have a problem reading. Maybe poor eyesight because you neglect the obvious.

You never answered my question. All you did was explain what a first person dungeon crawler was (something I am already aware of), and then attributed those basic descriptors to this game. It seems weird that people would suggest localizing a game without being able to explain why this game beyond others should be brought over, so I feel like I'm missing something. That's all.

Because you obviously have little interest in actually engaging in anything other then pestering others, I can only assume you are someone who was spurned here in the past.
Get over yourself. I don't get "spurned" by video game message boards.
Is your name "Elminage"? Why are you taking my criticisms so personally. I'm not pestering you because I don't understand the appeal in a game being proposed for localization.

I can only assume you are dim now. I have listed at least three factors of interest numerous times.No, you listed three things that are part of almost any rpg. If you can't think of anything, that's fine, but it's probably not healthy to get so worked up about it.

[Kakizaki]

You never answered my question. All you did was explain what a first person dungeon crawler was (something I am already aware of), and then attributed those basic descriptors to this game. It seems weird that people would suggest localizing a game without being able to explain why this game beyond others should be brought over, so I feel like I'm missing something. That's all.

I did. I listed #### over and over dude through out the several threads that have been dedicated to this game. If you missed it, that is your own fault. End of story. I tried to explain the qualities but you are too dense to pick up on it. It doesn't have to do anything to stand out as there are practically zero dungeon crawlers in the U.S. despite there being a small market for them.

Why is it weird that people suggest a game that appears to have the qualities of another title that they like?

Get over yourself. I don't get "spurned" by video game message boards.
Is your name "Elminage"? Why are you taking my criticisms so personally. I'm not pestering you because I don't understand the appeal in a game being proposed for localization.

Get over myself? Reread the entire thread dude. I have said it several times. None of use honestly believed Atlus would localize this. And yes, pestering. There are hundreds of other titles that have been suggested yet you seem to have a keen interest in this one and have focused on this one. For finding this game so ####ty, you can't seem to let it go.

[James Fiend]

I did. I listed #### over and over dude through out the several threads that have been dedicated to this game. If you missed it, that is your own fault. End of story. I tried to explain the qualities but you are too dense to pick up on it. It doesn't have to do anything to stand out as there are practically zero dungeon crawlers in the U.S. despite there being a small market for them.
Why is it weird that people suggest a game that appears to have the qualities of another title that they like?

It's my fault that I missed threads that existed before I signed up? You made one list of three things that nearly every rpg has and just repeated it over and over, those don't count as "qualities of interest" for this specific title.
There are also practically zero top down shooters for the PS2. That doesn't mean a generic one would sell like hotcakes, even if it did alright on a portable system. If there was something interesting or new about it, however, it might be worth playing.
Looking at the scans more closely, I noticed some mildly interesting character classes. You could mention something along those lines. Why is this so hard for you?


Get over myself? Reread the entire thread dude. I have said it several times. None of use honestly believed Atlus would localize this. And yes, pestering. There are hundreds of other titles that have been suggested yet you seem to have a keen interest in this one and have focused on this one. For finding this game so ####ty, you can't seem to let it go.

I'm currently in a conversation about this one. I just registered yesterday, I'm still looking around. And again, I don't care if you think Atlus will localize this. I don't have any particular agenda, I just didn't understand the appeal of this game and said so.
Instead of explaining what makes this game good, you just tell me what a dungeon crawler is and then discuss Etrian Odyssey.
If you find conversation about this annoying, feel free to end your part in it. Maybe it will die, or maybe someone else will rush to the pointless defense.
You jumped all over the other guy who didn't understand the appeal of this game as well...have you been secretly appointed as guardian of this thread or something?

[Hitoshura]

Ah, okay, glad we got that sorted out.

Sorry kid, but people insult each other on the internet. This has nothing to do with the validity of the content of the post, it simply means that the poster is fed up with the inanity of your complete ignorance of the facts.It seems obvious that validity of the content of posts means nothing to you. This post and your clever quoting are evidence of that. If posts on message boards make you "fed up" and insult people, maybe you need some help or a new hobby.

HOLD THE PRESSES

YOU MEAN, I CAN'T HAVE REACTIONS TO STATEMENTS ON THE INTERNET?!

MY MIND IS BLOWN

Further proof that you are a narcissistic moron who lacks the capability of reading comprehension.

[James Fiend]

HOLD THE PRESSES

YOU MEAN, I CAN'T HAVE REACTIONS TO STATEMENTS ON THE INTERNET?!

MY MIND IS BLOWN

Further proof that you are a narcissistic moron who lacks the capability of reading comprehension.Do you want something?

[Hitoshura]

Only to welcome you to the internet. You seem to be new here. Enjoy your stay.

[James Fiend]

Only to welcome you to the internet. You seem to be new here. Enjoy your stay.Are you really from Tokyo, 202X?

[Hitoshura]

THAT DEPENDS

YOUR NAME ISNT YHVH IS IT

[James Fiend]

THAT DEPENDS

YOUR NAME ISNT YHVH IS ITI don't know, I'm still new to this internet thing where caplocks is funny and quote editing is edgy comedy.

PS Maybe you should just let somebody else do this, you are doing more harm than good.

[Kakizaki]

If you find conversation about this annoying, feel free to end your part in it. Maybe it will die, or maybe someone else will rush to the pointless defense.

Ya see, it is statements like this that pretty much indicate you are trolling. You just joined up and focus on this thread. Again, weird. Why must I end my part? Again it appears you seem to get some satisfaction with this trolling.


It's my fault that I missed threads that existed before I signed up? You made one list of three things that nearly every rpg has and just repeated it over and over, those don't count as "qualities of interest" for this specific title.
There are also practically zero top down shooters for the PS2. That doesn't mean a generic one would sell like hotcakes, even if it did alright on a portable system. If there was something interesting or new about it, however, it might be worth playing.
Looking at the scans more closely, I noticed some mildly interesting character classes. You could mention something along those lines. Why is this so hard for you?

No but it is your fault for not being able to extract the simplest of ideas -- like the connection between the popularity of a title like EO and the potential for other games of the same ilk regardless of platform. Like I have mentioned several times over, EO generated interest for a console (read again CONSOLE) title in Wizardry on PS2.

Just think. You looked at the pics on your own. Maybe you could look at the website on your own too.

No one said anything about this title having the potential to sell like "hot cakes." Even the largest of Atlus "hits" are only modest sellers in the U.S.

Again, like I have mentioned before, people like EO not because it did anything new, but because it was familiar territory that is hardly seen on these shores any longer even though it is a genre of Western origin. It looks and plays like older fp dungeon crawlers. The classic virtues of exploration and character customization take precedence. No, not all jrpgs offer this like you state. Most are mainly heavily story driven. Now, try hard to focus on this next statement cause you seem to have trouble with this one, but Elminage appears to offer these same qualities. Wow, I feel like I have said all of this stuff already....

Again, to be generic there already has to be a glut of similar titles available in the market. There aren't. Prove me wrong.

I did mention the character customization (classes) and the bestiary. Again, you neglected those points.

There are a decent amount of vertical shooters for the PS2 in Japan. And I do believe if they were released at a budget price they would sell alright in the U.S. , but that is a different story......But again, unlike EO, there haven't been any vert shooters that have caused a strong cult following in the U.S. recently......Besides, your scenario is entirely hypothetically. At least mine has some backing.

have you been secretly appointed as guardian of this thread or something?

Have you been designated the resident jackass of this thread?

[Hitoshura]

Step 1: Play SMT 1 and 2 so that you ####ing understand the concept of what makes a first-person dungeon crawler so much different than "every other RPG that has done it before", and so that you get the joke

Step 2: OH #### I'M GETTING FED UP AGAIN

[Kakizaki]

Yes, I can only assume this person has zero interest in dungeon crawlers in the first place.

[jj984jj]

According to Weekly Famitsu, this is being ported to the DS.

[Kakizaki]

^Really? Thanks for the heads up. That is pretty interesting.

[Voodoo]

That could raise the chances greatly of it being localized now.

[Kakizaki]

^Maybe, but I wouldn't count on it. I thought that maybe the first person dungeon crawler title by Success would garner some consideration.

[James Fiend]

Ya see, it is statements like this that pretty much indicate you are trolling. You just joined up and focus on this thread. Again, weird. Why must I end my part? Again it appears you seem to get some satisfaction with this trolling.
No, I joined up and posted in the Super Robot Taisen thread. Then cyberbots. Then this. Now I go between Super Robot Taisen and this because, as they say, that's where the action is at the moment. And you don't have to end your part, but you're the one getting angry and being pestered. I'm not getting any particular satisfaction but I don't feel bothered either, so why would I end it?


No but it is your fault for not being able to extract the simplest of ideas -- like the connection between the popularity of a title like EO and the potential for other games of the same ilk regardless of platform. Like I have mentioned several times over, EO generated interest for a console (read again CONSOLE) title in Wizardry on PS2.

I think you are seriously overestimating the impact Etrian Odyssey has had on the video game community. That aside, people are willing to tolerate things on a handheld that they would never sit still for on a console. Even worse, if most people sat at a loading screen for even twenty seconds they would assume their game was broken.

Just think. You looked at the pics on your own. Maybe you could look at the website on your own too.

I looked at scans that somebody posted. The character classes were the only thing that looked even mildly interesting, and they weren't anything great, it was just the best example I could muster. Obviously, I don't read Japanese, so I'm not going to scour a Japanese website for a game that nobody has given a good reason to look at.

No one said anything about this title having the potential to sell like "hot cakes." Even the largest of Atlus "hits" are only modest sellers in the U.S.

Alright then. This thing doesn't look like it would have a chance of selling modestly. Put it by whatever standards you'd like, I just haven't seen anyone explain anything appealing about this.

Again, like I have mentioned before, people like EO not because it did anything new, but because it was familiar territory that is hardly seen on these shores any longer even though it is a genre of Western origin. It looks and plays like older fp dungeon crawlers. The classic virtues of exploration and character customization take precedence. No, not all jrpgs offer this like you state. Most are mainly heavily story driven. Now, try hard to focus on this next statement cause you seem to have trouble with this one, but Elminage appears to offer these same qualities. Wow, I feel like I have said all of this stuff already....

I never claimed all jrpgs offered this, but plenty do. Are there interesting skills or unique character classes or some interesting or great combat mechanic? Please answer this without using the words "dungeon" or "crawler" or "Etrian" or "Odyssey."

Again, to be generic there already has to be a glut of similar titles available in the market. There aren't. Prove me wrong.

There are a glut of similar titles for free on the internet. I'd prove it to you but I don't know if we're allowed to link abandonware sites.

I did mention the character customization (classes) and the bestiary. Again, you neglected those points.

You mentioned that character customization existed and I think you described the bestiary as "varied." I dare Atlus to put "Varied Bestiary" on the back of the box of their next RPG.

There are a decent amount of vertical shooters for the PS2 in Japan. And I do believe if they were released at a budget price they would sell alright in the U.S. , but that is a different story......But again, unlike EO, there haven't been any vert shooters that have caused a strong cult following in the U.S. recently......Besides, your scenario is entirely hypothetically. At least mine has some backing.

I don't think a vertical shooter for the PS2 could sell at all in America right now. And again, you are giving EO way too much credit for influence.

Have you been designated the resident jackass of this thread?A few people dared to criticize the appeal of this game before I did, but I guess they didn't stay for the warm reception.

[James Fiend]

Step 1: Play SMT 1 and 2 so that you ####ing understand the concept of what makes a first-person dungeon crawler so much different than "every other RPG that has done it before", and so that you get the joke

Step 2: OH #### I'M GETTING FED UP AGAINYes, I played both games; I got the "joke" and never stopped laughing. SMT 1 and 2 are great for the demon negotiating and fusing, and the unique story. The fact that you navigated mazes in first person is not what makes those games memorable but the fact that they ditched that style probably should tell you something.

[Kakizaki]

There are a glut of similar titles for free on the internet. I'd prove it to you but I don't know if we're allowed to link abandonware sites.

There are free games everywhere. Why localize any?

And you don't have to end your part, but you're the one getting angry and being pestered.

No, I just think it is strange that someone is so focused on hating on one game in particular when hundreds are suggested -- not to mention certain troll like comments. I am surprised you haven't started digging through other threads.

Obviously, I don't read Japanese, so I'm not going to scour a Japanese website for a game that nobody has given a good reason to look at.

But you looked at scans from a Japanese magazine? Not too different. Too hard to look up? I guess you can't say it is a lack of interest because obviously you are interested.

A few people dared to criticize the appeal of this game before I did, but I guess they didn't stay for the warm reception.

Because they were probably smart enough to realize that while this game may not appeal to them, it does appeal to others.

And again, you are giving EO way too much credit for influence.

I very well could be, but then again after EO was released I noticed a glut of "Hey I played EO, what are some other FP dungeon crawlers you recommend" threads everywhere.

Even worse, if most people sat at a loading screen for even twenty seconds they would assume their game was broken.

You really like to preoccupy yourself with the loading times huh? I suppose you forgot that many times a localization team can work on and reduce such problems.

I dare Atlus to put "Varied Bestiary" on the back of the box of their next RPG.

Why not? Have you seen some of the stuff companies put on the back of boxes for selling points?

I think you are seriously overestimating the impact Etrian Odyssey has had on the video game community. That aside, people are willing to tolerate things on a handheld that they would never sit still for on a console

Again, I thought you claimed to have played some fp dungeon crawlers? If you had would realize that it is a genre more conducive to consoles. While I agree with your statement to a degree, games that require long sessions general aren't the type that are tolerated on handhelds.

[Foryth]

^ And I started one of those threads heh.

You want to know what we find interesting in this game?

Well personaly I really dig the art. Like most first person dungeon crawlers it seems to focus more on gameplay than story, the system looks fairly interesting, judging from the website and videos the music isn't too bad and there seems to be a wide variety of races and classes along with much customization.

But most important of all is that I want to play a game like this on my PS2. I know that there are tons of older games like this on PC, and I have played a few of them myself. But I want to be able to sit comfortably in front of my TV and enjoy it, controler in hand.

[Olethros]

^ This man speaks truth.

[James Fiend]

^ And I started one of those threads heh.

You want to know what we find interesting in this game?

Well personaly I really dig the art. Like most first person dungeon crawlers it seems to focus more on gameplay than story, the system looks fairly interesting, judging from the website and videos the music isn't too bad and there seems to be a wide variety of races and classes along with much customization.

But most important of all is that I want to play a game like this on my PS2. I know that there are tons of older games like this on PC, and I have played a few of them myself. But I want to be able to sit comfortably in front of my TV and enjoy it, controler in hand.The music doesn't seem that impressive but I can respect a wide variety of races and classes. The idea that first person means more gameplay doesn't really make sense to me, but I do agree that the art is good for this kind of game. Unfortunately, the monsters kind of look rehashed, don't they? Skeletons and giant snakes and bugs...at least SMT had more of a theme going.
The idea of a wide variety of classes and races does seem appealing though. I just wish they could be better represented in gameplay.

[Olethros]

Poison pink was a good call Atlus, but don't forget about this one! :D

[SickleCellAnemia]

I figure if people can keep bumping up the SRT: OG thread I can bump this one.

Don't forget about this and the DS one Atlus :)

[Olethros]

:agree:

[PFV]

I'd still buy this.

[Kakizaki]

Me too.

[jeffx]

Need this (for the DS)

[James Fiend]

I'd buy it for the DS. And maybe the PS2 just for the warm memories of Kakizaki and I engaged in hot textual intercourse up there.

[DamnedToBeFree]

Can't believe I haven't posted here yet.

Day One, Atlus.

[Zephyr]

Doooooo eeeeet. Preferably the DS port I guess. I'd definitely buy this one.

[SickleCellAnemia]

Need this (for the DS)
I need this for the PS2 AND DS.

[jeffx]

Need this (for the DS)
I need this for the PS2 AND DS.

From what I understand, the DS port is an extended version of the PS2 with bug fixes and balanced skills. I think I read that on Famitsu. If someone could post the whole list of changes form PS2 -> DS, that would rule. Anyway I would prefer the DS version simply for the convenience (so rarely at home these days) and as a nice little follow-up to EO2.

Also... while I shudder to think about it, there's a slight chance that UFO may be thinking about localizing this title as well. They've worked with Starfish at least three times in the past, that I know of. The translation will probably sub-par, but I'd buy it regardless.

[System_Error]

UFO is teh suck

[Kakizaki]

Need this (for the DS)
I need this for the PS2 AND DS.

From what I understand, the DS port is an extended version of the PS2 with bug fixes and balanced skills. I think I read that on Famitsu. If someone could post the whole list of changes form PS2 -> DS, that would rule. Anyway I would prefer the DS version simply for the convenience (so rarely at home these days) and as a nice little follow-up to EO2.

Also... while I shudder to think about it, there's a slight chance that UFO may be thinking about localizing this title as well. They've worked with Starfish at least three times in the past, that I know of. The translation will probably sub-par, but I'd buy it regardless.

What are you basing this UFO speculation on? Just Starfish? I seem to remember someone emailing them a while back and them replying that they weren't interested in Elminage.

[jeffx]

Yes, pure speculation and yes, "just" the fact that they already have a strong relationship with Starfish (which can't be said about any other NA publisher). It does sound as though an RPG would be way too much work for UFO. Maybe I was just stating the obvious to you... but I still figured I should put it out there.

PS I've (tried) to contact them many times and they NEVER write back to MY emails... ヽ(ｏ`皿′ｏ)ﾉ

[Kakizaki]

^It's fine. I was just wondering if you had anything else you were working off of.

[Sanctine]

What are you basing this UFO speculation on? Just Starfish? I seem to remember someone emailing them a while back and them replying that they weren't interested in Elminage.



Nah, it was something I found in an interview/article. It said that UFO wasn't even aware of Elminage's existence, but that they might look into it.

[Olethros]

Need this (for the DS)
I need this for the PS2 AND DS.

:agree:

[SickleCellAnemia]

I agree with everything Olethros ever said and will ever say.

[Olethros]

^ You are wise indeed, my young grasshopper.

[SickleCellAnemia]

I'll see your Dragon Shadow Spell bump and raise you an Elminage bump!

[jeffx]

I support the bumping of this thread. I am looking forward to Atlus announcing this title!!!!

[SickleCellAnemia]

I am looking forward to announcing this title before Atlus A.R.A.M. gets to!!!!
This is probably what will happen, again(LOLOL).

[jeffx]

Yeah well we can definitely count on Spencer @ Siliconera for that.

Dude has the ESRB, US patent/TM website, gamefly/gametap/gameXXX listings tapped into his veins.

[Pixel]

Yeah well we can definitely count on Spencer @ Siliconera for that.

Dude has the ESRB, US patent/TM website, gamefly/gametap/gameXXX listings tapped into his veins.
That doesn't happen often anymore. They've learned from our tricks...

[Zephyr]

Yeah well we can definitely count on Spencer @ Siliconera for that.

Dude has the ESRB, US patent/TM website, gamefly/gametap/gameXXX listings tapped into his veins.
That doesn't happen often anymore. They've learned from our tricks...

*shakes fist*


So now we have to wait for an official announcement (or lack thereof)? Aww man.

[Olethros]

hey guys, wouldn't want you to forget this one! :D

[SickleCellAnemia]

hey guys, wouldn't want you to forget this one! :D
Because you will probably forget, right old guy?:D

Ah, alzheimers is such a terrbile thing...

[Sei]

Your glasses are in your pocket and you already put on your coat... I'm worried captain...

[Olethros]

I've fallen and I can't get up!

[SickleCellAnemia]

My hip! The old is rubbing off on me!!!

[Camanche]

Heh heh.

But seriously, what's going on with this game? :)

[Luna]

I would pick this up!

Hmm... it appears to also be On the DS (http://www.dsfanboy.com/2008/07/21/more-classic-style-dungeon-wandering-elminage-ds-remix/) with a bonus dungeon.

[Tarrant]

Just, ah, engaging in a little thread necromancy to add emphasis to the fact that I'd literally butcher a small family in order to play this in English.

Juuuust sayin'.

[kolaces]

While this thread will probably sink back into oblivion soon, I'd like to say just how awesome it is that this thread is still around. Created all the way back in November 07 and escaped harm from the forum changes in 2008 that made some of the old threads disappear. Survivor.

Day 1.

[Zoltor]

I would so pre-order this.

[VampiricDragon_]

Its an un appreciated series even in japan.

The third title just came out not too long ago, and while it got good scores, its not one of the bigger japanese dungeon crawling series

[Kakizaki]

Under appreciated and yet it warranted a third title in the series. Oh boy...

[VampiricDragon_]

under appreciated by the majority, but there is a small fanbase who eats it up.

Thats why it got a third entry.